Q&A time
 

1st question.

I was in Dark Passage the other day and saw a friend. So, I stopped and refreshed his buff. He asked me if it was T2 and at the time I only had T1. He told me, Thanks for ruining my buff. So, does a T1 buff mess up a T2 buff in anyway?


2nd question.

I was once told that after 50 extra stat points in END, that it is useless. Why and how is it useless?? Is this only for clerics or for fighter also?


kk, now your turn, answer............

1st question.

Hessah told me it doesn't overwrite the buff. But I reckon it overwrites the time, so it might increase the time again but the amount of HP/SP increased says the same? Not really sure. But don't buff that friend again.

2nd question.

After 50 END, your block rate increases by only 0.1% not 0.2%. Like the 25 SPR thing. I'm guessing the answer is that.

Hessah said it doesn't effect the buff unless the buffing being used is better than the buff already in use. LOL Get it?

She told me that -nods-

@KT- No. If the buff is not better than the buff in use, neither time or HP/SP will be decreased or increased.

That's what I said.

No o.o Didn't you say the time would increase...or reset to 59mins, but the HP/SP will not be effected? o:

Oops I misread.

I thought time resets too. .______. Cos I remember doing that with lvra's buff...

With Ivory's? Ivory has good buffs, so if you buffed yourself and then he buffed you, your HP/SP would increase and the time would reset(Right?). If a lower level cleric with crappier buffs than you, buffed you, it would show that the time increased for a few mins and then go back down(HP/SP should not be effected). /figuredthisouttheothernight

I really hate the buffs in this game some times Dx

O_O you're all going "Hessah" said...

I better go find booyah and test it out properly...

My theory is... you shouldnt be able to buff OVER a stronger buff..

I remember hving someone giving me T3 buff... half an hr later i did a set of rebuffs myself (protect, resist, endure, the lot)... and then my endure buff just disappeared mid way (ie. an hr after the T3 buff)

So I believe that my own T2 buff... didnt buff over T3 buff.. and it ran out.. when it was suppose to run out...



(and you would never see someone's HP go DOWN coz someone with a T1 buff, is trying to buff over a T2 buff)

I remember lvra buffed me, and I had rebuffed myself to restart the timer but keep my max hp/sp that was obtained from his buffs.

But I could have remembered it wrong.

Edit:

Can't we test this ourselves?

Buff ourselves with T2 buff and then try it with the T1 buff?

I got buffed by Booyah and when Hester tried rebuffing to make the time reset, it worked(for a few mins xD) but then went back down to whatever it was at before she did =\ HP/SP was not effected though.

Wow! Made my head spin.

Do we have a cleric with T1 buff who can test this with Spirit and her T2 buff?

We can get one of my mules to sit on a stump for a an hour or two and watch what the buff does over time.

Get Spirit to buff her with a T2 first and half hour later get someone with a T1 buff to rebuff her.

LOL, I type slow, but yeah.

(But I edited fast)

@Forever: Yeah, maybe that's what happened. Cos I only saw it go to 59 minutes, and I didn't look after that. It probably went down without me noticing.

wow that's an interesting observation...

i wont be surprised of that's the case....

so we've established that you cant buff DOWN someone...

now we just gotta check if a T1 buff, can extend the time of a T2 buff... (which sounds like its a bug if u can LOL)

If I remember correctly off of some site it should be the same as restore in which if it is a lower lvl it won't affect the endure buff at all. Though why would he get mad I'll never know because I never get buffed so I would be happy to get one anyways. But it shouldn't affect the T2 buff at all.
I think you are using the word friend a bit loosely there.
And yes the block rate goes down from .1% to .05% not .2% to .1%.

@Hester-Who said you can buff down someone? I never said that o.o

EDIT: AHh sry AF... typo.. i meant you CANT buff down someone.. not can.. fixed now...



but yes.. i wouldnt call that guy a friend XD

Yeah it makes sense but was that directed towards me?

no sorry i edited my post... found a typo that confused AF...

and it wasnt directed at you.. it was for AF... =D

This... is the most confusing thread I have ever read. @_@

And not because I don't understand what you guys are talking about...

so you buff them with t1 while they have t2 and doesn't affect the hp/sp until the timer of the original t2 buff runs out which would result in a t1 buff?

My believe is the T1 buff doesnt do anything.. when original T2 runs out.. you have no buffs left...

It's the same with scrolls. I had a set of t3 scrolls on... then accidentally clicked on my t1 scrolls. I freaked and looked at my scrolls but nothing changed (phew).

About the END thing... I should go check my Fighter since she has like 80 something points in it.

Ill put this to rest right now as Ive already tested this long ago.

When you have a T2 buff. Only T2 and T3 buff can overwrite the actual time on the buff. However because of a bug when you use a T1 buff on somebody who has a T2 buff the timer you see resets but the actual buff timer is unaffected by a lower level buff.

well well well... wat do we know..

in between all the discussion.. there's a bug...... -.-

Hrm.

I feel like I should be able to say something about stacking archer poisons and how their timer never gets reset or whatever but... I can't.

._.

Forgot to add you can test this on yourself cast T2 Endure on yourself then 5 minutes before the buff runs out cast T1 on yourself. People seem to forget that you can change the level of the skill you are casting.

Everyone ignored me when I said that @__@ I thought I was going crazy and that you can't do it yourself that's why I got ignored. :cries::cries::cries::cries:

:cries:

Well the mystery is solved now

Somebody bring me my next case please so detective Andromeda can solve another mystery.:laugh:

Really sorry about that. It doesn't affect me though because I'm only lvl 32....................... but yes it does make sense now that you can test it on yourself. At least you were the first to mention it right?

Blaaaah said it first but everyone ignored her XD

maybe coz it was an edit... we missed it

Maybe but it didnt matter either way since I already knew exactly how it worked and what caused it

Oh don't worry, I was only kidding when I said I was ignored, LOL! I don't really mind.. I'm sort of... use to it......... -cries in the corner some more-

LOL jk.

@Hessah: Nope: it's because it's on the bottom of the page! Bottom post of every page is missed 80% of the time, haha. At least I miss last posts alot HAHA.

@Blaaaaaaaah: I do that all the time so maybe that's why I missed it.

As for the end part being over 50 I found this on Fiesta Wiki

"END = +0.1 BLOCK% (1~50)/0.05 BLOCK% (51+), +0.5 DEF, +5 HP"

It is okay to quote if I give the source right?

Hm... looking at it like that it almost makes me feel END was useless after 50. :P Maybe I should put into STR now. .__.

Unless the bug affects the HP and SP also, it does change when you get a T1 buff over a T2 or T3 buff, because I got a buff from Booyah one day, then later Spirit gave me a buff and my HP and SP went down.

:tongue:

Did you see the stuff about putting points in END????

Maybe your HP/SP went down cuz it was at the exact moment your buff ran out. :nahnah:

Yes I did, the only thing that goes down is the block rate which I rarely block as it is.

No it was the other night when we saw him in CP1, You rebuffed me right before I logged out which was only about 15 minutes later.

Well hell, I'm just gonna quit buffing people then.

LOL NO!!!!!!!