Ah, I could see how it could keep going. Every time I've played it, the legals votes counted and it ended when the numbers were even.

Im human.
I swear I am.
I have to admit though, all this confusion is delicious.
:)
I would think that the people making good points or seem to be helping the humans out the most would be legals... o.o

Ness :sad:


PLEASEEEE TRUSTTTTTTTT MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Edit: if you are human that is.. lmaoo!

Btw lirange~

Can you also update your first post with the post where you announce Day 2/3/4 etc has started? So people can jump straight to it and find out when 24 hrs ends.

I'm convinced the legals are either [Tama, Hessah, Esen] or [Tama, Hessah, Hraes] based on last phase voting.



People I reckon are legals - Suspicious because they never make inferences of their own, but encourage everyone elses inferences.

• Hessah - Don't know.
• Tamashiiryuu - Don't know

People I'm unsure about as legals: They have no or few inferences.

• Hraesvelg - Don't know
• Esen - Don't know

People who seem human but could be lying: Their inferences could be a lie, but sound pretty genuine.

• Vasu - Probably lightning
• Jikanu - Probably lightning

People who died as humans:

• Ivramire - No Vote
• Ralath - Probably lightning

People's votes I'm confident on:

• Blaaaaaaaah - Probably Hrae
• Dynamics - Voted for Ralath
• lightningmystix - Voted for Hessah

I recommend everyone vote for Hessah, from the way she read my plan it sounded like she was looking from a legal's perspective, not to mention she's always there to fan the flames of suspicion for everyone.

I'd ask people to vote for Tama too but he don't talk enough for me to convince everyone else.

TRUST MEEE AND VOTE FOR HRAES!

Edit:

yes I did vote for hraes.

Notice how no one else was going on about Hraes except me. But he still got one vote. If I was a legal, I wouldn't be able to vote. Hraes should have got no votes.

YET Hraes said before he strongly suspects me, followed by hessah. However, I got no votes. Where did my vote from Hraes go?

and I just noticed that Lirange took off the vote counts D:

it was 4/7 enraya
1/7 Hraes
1/7
1/7

Who were the other two?

^ Here is his last quote before Day 1 ended.

There was one vote for Hessah but Enraya already said she voted for her. Now Enraya wouldn't lie since she's in Helga's tomb.

So where did my votes go? I know a lot of people sounded like they suspected me BUT they also listed other suspects so it wouldn't be a surprise if they ended up voting someone else.


HOWEVER Hraes only said me and Hessah and since we already figured out who voted for Hessah, then where did MY vote from Hraes go?

I got none because Hraes is Legal and he can't vote!

BELIEFMIPLZ

Edit: damn it I need to study.

I voted for Enraya...

I cant figure out who voted for Ralath.. I thought Enen did.. but she voted for me..

Dyna wouldnt say he voted for Ralath if.. he was a legal now O_o coz if he's a legal the REAL human would know that was the person taht casted the Ralath vote and would instantly know that Dyna is a legal... hmmmmmmmmm

Man I was fairly certain that it was dyna too




OK so with Dyna's analysis and my own facts.. Hrae, Tama and Esen are now my suspects....

When push came to shove, I decided En was more suspicious, so that's who I voted for.

Bolded part seems like a fair point.

1 vote was for Ralath and the last 1 vote was for Hessah.

I find both Hrae and Dyna most suspicious right now.

I find Hessah the least. But... if you think the other way, I guess it could be all a trick.

... I'm happy we have 24 hours to vote. xD

If hrae isnt a legal then Dyna and Blah is a great team (which... it's highly likely)

What about Vasu?

Nice one, since there isn't actually a way to prove that you really did voted for En or not.

I was gonna ask for all the other humans to say if they voted for En, and we'd get an extra number, but the Legals would easily come in to say they also voted for En, so we'd have 3 extra votes for En in the end.

LOL now everyone that voted for En is suspicious LOL!!


I just believed that Vasu isnt legal.. i took him out of my equation...

^I thought Esen would be more innocent than Vasu.. xD

Who did you vote for? o:

There's no reason for you to believe my analysis so willingly if you think I'm a legal.

Oh hey, I missed a whole bunch of posts. I should make myself a snail/turtle icon.

D:

My new opinions haven't changed though.

Edit: EnEn ;_;

DDDDDDDDDDD:

Oh yeah.

We already figured out who gave the 1 votes (enraya, me, dynamics). So that makes me, enraya, and dynamics human (to the least).

That means Vasu, Tama and Jikanu would also say they voted for EnEn, regardless if they are human or not.

Unless they're lying.

Who is?

That's a good point. I didn't think about that...

I voted for Enraya (sorry).

This got more confusing rather than clear HAHAHA


LOL Ness!

Either way, it still means that Hraesvelg can't prove that he voted for Enraya. So there is still no proof as to where my vote from him went. 8D

None of us that voted for Enraya can prove that we voted for her. I had my suspicions about her from the early suggestions she gave out, then all quiet. I tried to go on a fishing expedition by dropping some other names, but in the end went with my gut, which for me rarely works, it seems. I'm much more comfortable with facts and logic. There isn't much to work on so far, just a bunch of stuff everyone has thrown out. It's nearly impossible to tell the truth from the fiction.

I'm honoured. *bows* XD I still think Dyna is very suspicious, but the absolute rage with which Blaahs is protesting makes me suspicious. I know my case against Dyna was a lot more solid, (He said he didn't know you could vote for yourself, but do YOU believe him?) but Blaaahs is slowly working her way up my list.

I didn't really understand KT's case against Hrae. She says, "We already figured out where the 1 votes came from", from her, Dyna, and En. This would involve you believing her and Dyna. I'm assuming En is trustworthy because it's obvious she's human.

And can you prove you voted for whoever you voted? The answer is "no". So your case is very flimsy and it looks a lot like you want to divert attention from something. Sure, Hrae might be a legal, but you just moved yourself up in my list, missy.

Well to those who hasn't voted.

So far it's a bit debate between me and hraes.

I'd say that if you really can't trust me to vote hraes, then vote me. Either he is Legal or I am.

Even if you kill me off as a human, it'd go down to 3v4. But once you find out I am human, you will also know Hraes is Legal (as I'd be telling THE TRUTHH and I would have no reason to lie about everything I have said in the thread).

So if the remaining 3 kick off Hraes from legal team, it'd be 2v4. Won't be too bad, I guess.

your choice.




BUT VOTE FOR HRAES!!

Er, hate to break your logic there...but we could both be humans going at it. Even if you are a human, that doesn't automatically make me a legal. The true legals are probably sitting back and laughing their asses off at us.

Perhaps. But since we can't exactly prove that you didn't vote for me because you went for En, then the chances of you being Legal are higher than both of us being humans, because I wouldn't go and accuse you for being a Legal so much if I wasn't that sure.

I guess if I die, it's to get their trust. But I don't really want to sacrifice at the same time T_T_T_T"

No one have came up to say they voted for Hraes, yet. Except me.

And do call me Blahs. :P

TRIPLE POST (unless someone is gonna post before me while I type this).



Who did you vote for then, Vasu?

That doesn't mean anything. You could have noticed that and taken advantage of it.

My apologies. :o

En. And this time, it's going to begin with either B or D (or something else.) :tongue:

But.. why wouldnt the "real" human say something if it really wasnt blah that voted for Hrae?

That "real" human should know for sure that Blah is lying...

Blah has been quite consistent to say Hrae was a legal hence the vote..

While Hrae randomly said that he voted for En....... hmmm.........

I thought Dyna was suspicious too but he said he voted for Ralath.. and same theory if he didn't / couldn't have voted for Ralath someone would know they're lying and at least said something?

Okie dokes. Now I'm also suspecting you as Legal, because you're trying to prove me wrong and no one really bothered to (other than Hraes.. but that's because I'm saying he is Legal, so it's normal for him to argue back). Of course, you could be fair, but no one else really had a downright opinion on what I said, just pretty much not sure whether I'm right/telling the truth or not.

Another reason is that I'm wondering why the Legals did not finish you off. I'd say you're pretty good at debates and you should be on top priority of their murder list!

THAT ASIDE!

1. Alright, there is no proof that I voted for Hraesvelg. HOWEVER, there is evidence that I voted for Hraes, while there is none for Hraes voting for En. I made at least one post about voting for Hraes before Day 1 was up, yet Hraes did not make a single post about En.

2. I see that you questioned my trust on Dyna's vote for Ralath. I trust him because of the same reason my vote for Hraes should be trusted. No one else said they voted for Ralath.

3. Everyone who said voted En is already suspicious. 5 people (Hessah, Tama, Esen, Hraesvelg, and you) said they voted for En, when there's only four votes. Already 1 is lying. Actually, IF Jikanu and Ralath voted for En (since Ralath died and he's a human and he didn't voted for Hessah/Hraes/himself.. and I'm just guessing Jikanu really did vote for En, I dunno) then there's already potentially 3 liars in the 5 people I listed.

My vote for Hraes and Dyna's vote for Ralath have no contradictions. Yet there is suspicions on who really voted for En.



There is no proof for anything like Hraes said, but if I were not involved, I'd take a jab at voting for hraes (since there's potentially 3 Legals in the 5 people I listed, and 3/5 is a pretty good chance), rather than a 50/50 chance at voting for me.


Besides, I dare a Legal to say they voted for Hraesvelg, Hessah, or Ralath. Legals did not lie about voting for them because since only 1 human voted for each and if they lied, the real human who had voted for either of the three would instantly know the other is a Legal. Even if they won't be able to prove anything, the risk is still too big to take. However, saying that they voted for En would be a much safer option (the only option left, I'd say).

edit:

WEWT that was long! Btw I hope I'm not starting to sound serious, just that it's getting exciting since I feel like I'm going somewhere now!!!

Maybe the "real" human is dead? Maybe lvra voted for Hrae? He's not allowed to say who he voted for now, so it could have been him, I guess. But yeah, I suppose Hrae is suspicious too.

I don't think lvra got the chance to vote at all.

11 people started the game, lvra got murdered, that's down to 10. 10 - 3 legals = 7 votes.

So yep, he didn't get to vote.

he didnt get to vote at all coz he was dead before any votes started~

Okie dokes. Now I'm also suspecting you as Legal, because you're trying to prove me wrong and no one really bothered to (other than Hraes.. but that's because I'm saying he is Legal, so it's normal for him to argue back). Of course, you could be fair, but no one else really had a downright opinion on what I said, just pretty much not sure whether I'm right/telling the truth or not.

You should know I'm debate hungry and love to point out fallacies in logic. But then again, I can't expect you to trust me. As for the other points you made, they are kinda valid I guess. So go ahead and take the stab, and I'll take mine (Not necessarily at you). I must say, people saying who they voted for makes this extremely easy. I think I might stab a legal this round.

Pwa~

That's true, though. There's a lot of hints when it comes to when you know how many votes have been made for a certain person etc.

But then again, would taking away that element make it too hard to find out who the legals are? The votes and posts were the only thing we could work with... posts alone doesn't mean anything since we all could be lying. If there's nothing to work with, then it's all gonna be just random guessing D: