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Hessah 03-27-2008 06:15 AM

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Originally Posted by hyperswoss (Post 115237)
I know it's not criminal, just incredibly, incredibly sleezy.

;o

well they are a company! if u're using Windows... i can tell u microsoft has similar mind set!

what I dont get is why would they write that down and publicise it to make themselves sound bad?

or is that something tri wrote him himself, pretending to be Outspark?

that's why i asked where he got it from

Ralath 03-27-2008 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 115216)
wow where did u get the CEO thing?

i wish i never read that

From an interview she and this other person did for like this gaming website... lemme see if I can find it real quick...

Yup.

Here it is:

Q&A: Outspark gets 11m, talks "Virtual Playground"

NotMyWay 03-27-2008 06:35 AM

Lol! Triumph's quote was copied word for word without any alterations, and outspark DID say that! o.O

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Yeah. That, we're used to. If we take away Korean dresses, and they complain? Well, we'll make it into a Premium Item! They can buy it!
So now we know how they get ideas for premium items: take away non-premium items and make them premium?

AngellicDiety 03-27-2008 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 115239)
well they are a company! if u're using Windows... i can tell u microsoft has similar mind set!

The only difference is microsoft wouldn't be pulling this crap on the millions of people who license or have purchased Windows.

What outspark is doing is the equivalent of Microsoft charging us $20 USD an update.

Most people would find that detestable, but the question is, why doesn't anyone confront outspark directly.


They remove features (permanent) available in other versions of the game.

They give them back over priced. We arent that far behind Shine Online, Bright Kingdom, and Korean Fiesta. That excuse doesn't really apply anymore when we talk about mounts that you can purchase from NPC's.

Hessah 03-27-2008 10:52 AM

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Originally Posted by AngellicDiety (Post 115320)
The only difference is microsoft wouldn't be pulling this crap on the millions of people who license or have purchased Windows.

What outspark is doing is the equivalent of Microsoft charging us $20 USD an update.

Most people would find that detestable, but the question is, why doesn't anyone confront outspark directly.


They remove features (permanent) available in other versions of the game.

They give them back over priced. We arent that far behind Shine Online, Bright Kingdom, and Korean Fiesta. That excuse doesn't really apply anymore when we talk about mounts that you can purchase from NPC's.

i thought its the same in a way they they released half-developed operating systems, charging everyone hundreds of dollars for bugged up programme... and they use us consumers as testers (as we're "open beta testers" for outspark)

the difference is Microsoft has already charged you upfront... when you bought the software...

while outspark is pay as you go XD (and voluntarily too.. you dont have to pay if you dont want to)

you are more than welcome to quit and not play this game... while you cant really just ditch your newly bought window Vista coz you've already spent hundreds on it, just to find that its not compatible with almost every other specialising programs

AngellicDiety 03-27-2008 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 115332)
i thought its the same in a way they they released half-developed operating systems, charging everyone hundreds of dollars for bugged up programme... and they use us consumers as testers (as we're "open beta testers" for outspark)

the difference is Microsoft has already charged you upfront... when you bought the software...

while outspark is pay as you go XD (and voluntarily too.. you dont have to pay if you dont want to)

you are more than welcome to quit and not play this game... while you cant really just ditch your newly bought window Vista coz you've already spent hundreds on it, just to find that its not compatible with almost every other specialising programs

You can ditch Vista at any time. There are other operating systems such as the Linux group - Redhat, Fedora, Slackware, etc.

Microsoft is actually making an effort to fix their software. Even though some are failed attempts, if you look at the Knowledge base download center, there are hundreds of updates, each spanning within the timeframe of 2 weeks. Some even days after the last patch rolled out.

Hence the difference. Sure you payed possibly up to 800 or 900 dollars buying the operating system. Your not being charged to recieve the updates. Customer support is at the top of their list.

Outspark, and I'm afraid hessah you have the wrong mentality a bit, has a half-complete game littered with bugs. To make that worse they are customizing the game such that it becomes almost essential to buy these cash shop items.

I suggest, before supporting this view about "enhancing game experience" through the voluntary (although the term coerced fits better) purchase of cash shop items, you play a level 60+ mage with no Blessing of Teva. Once you do, I think you'll be more inclined to see the truth behind it....

Hessah 03-27-2008 11:06 AM

i really dont see why u're still playing this game when u think they're so bad

AngellicDiety 03-27-2008 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 115339)
i really dont see why u're still playing this game when u think they're so bad

I'm just here as long as certain guild-mates stay here.

crappy 03-27-2008 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by AngellicDiety (Post 115351)
I'm just here as long as certain guild-mates stay here.

-teary eyes- Does that mean us (specifically ME)?? -sniffles-

If it's not ...-.- I take back the tears

And yes, I am stalking you in forums. MUahahahaahah.

(this is way out of topic might as well say sth related)

$25 is WAY to much. :mad:

Triumph 03-27-2008 08:39 PM

Don't you love the goodies I find? O_o

The difference between Microsoft and Outspark is vast, actually. Microsoft programs its own content, and releases updates for free. This is done largely because Microsoft sells enormous licenses to corporations, thus generating vast income. I believe their income stands right now as $51 billion US dollars in the 2007 calendar year. Despite their software being easily manipulated, they have begun an annoying campaign protect those individuals who are not as apt with their cyber defenses, or firewalls.

Outspark, however, purchases licenses from Asian corporations. They are able to charge whatever they want for the cash shop, because they are the ones paying for the license. They claim that they are acting as a "joint partnership," but I fail to see how this is so. It appears more that Outspark spends its requests to have certain things restricted, while making nearly every single cash shop item limited with respect to time.

By restrictions, I mean in terms of skill and ease of leveling. For example:

Clerics lack Extinguish (GM Silkypico's favored attack in the GM wars yesterday) and Break (Similar to Bash and Bleed/Trip) for skills.

Mages lack Thunder Bolt (lightning AoE similar to Inferno and Frost Nova) and Spirit Tap (tap SP for HP).

Archers lack Annihilating Shot (double damage) and Nature's Wrath (immobilizing).

Fighters don't lose out much. I think the only two they lack out of their complete set of skills is Berserk and Shockwave. But Shockwave is a level 87 skill, so technically that can't be counted as a loss.

Furthermore, leveling is a pain. No 7x Battleground, limited map, heavy congestion...and experience isn't even good.


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