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Hessah 12-10-2007 01:28 AM

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Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 55410)
Anyhow, I'm just saying that it should be equal. Its really only a big deal because conservative, senile, war-mongering old men who like to pretend to nail themselves to crosses each night run our country. Sad but true. And I was kind of raised to actually care about what goes on around me =P Since it does affect me even if not directly.


That's gonna be something that gay/lesbians will have to fight the rights for... in my opinion...

back many decades, women were being descriminated against, and women fought for their rights to be fair, that we can do just as much as men, (or more!) etc.

I think this should happen the same way for homosexuality too! I believe one day.. it will be fair.. we've just gotta educate the society... once ppl get use to the idea they wont be so rigid against them...

kosherkid 12-10-2007 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Pritcher (Post 55416)
I think you're confusing existentialism with nihilism, but I'm not an authority on either so who knows.

As for calm people not voicing their opinions, that isn't true. It's just that calm people voices are drown out by not-so-calm people shouting over them.

Eh yeah I might've... But existentialism and nihilism have some similarities and can get intertwined.

But lets get back on topic... and Triumph, no one can tell you really want Premium User... spamming it up haha.

Triumph 12-10-2007 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 55419)

It wouldn't surprise me if he did. The man tries to read books upside down, peer through binoculars with lens covers on them, wave to blind people, and blink a radical amount of times in very limited timeframe.

But anyways, I'm from the west coast, california primarily, and I honestly have not noticed people thinking its a big ordeal with same gender things, unless they're religious nutcases.

Californians are more open minded.

Go to somewhere more...traditional, if you will. You will get some very strong opinions about this subject matter, lol.

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Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 55422)
That's gonna be something that gay/lesbians will have to fight the rights for... in my opinion...

back many decades, women were being descriminated against, and women fought for their rights to be fair, that we can do just as much as men, (or more!) etc.

I think this should happen the same way for homosexuality too! I believe one day.. it will be fair.. we've just gotta educate the society... once ppl get use to the idea they wont be so rigid against them...

The problem is, people refuse to get used to that idea. They find it repulsing.

O-mie 12-10-2007 01:31 AM


mm yeah, they have been fighting for it. Marriages were actually allowed here in SF for some time, then bush was like, LOLZ I CHANGE MY MIND USUK so yeah.

But even in a game I mean... the feature is implemented in the japanese version I believe. So...

kosherkid 12-10-2007 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 55428)
Californians are more open minded.

Go to somewhere more...traditional, if you will. You will get some very strong opinions about this subject matter, lol.



The problem is, people refuse to get used to that idea. They find it repulsing.

I see what your saying (good point) and well I think it'll just take time. I mean it took generations for people to get used to Blacks in the South... and I think the same will apply here. Just takes time.

Triumph 12-10-2007 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by kosherkid (Post 55424)
Eh yeah I might've... But existentialism and nihilism have some similarities and can get intertwined.

But lets get back on topic... and Triumph, no one can tell you really want Premium User... spamming it up haha.

It's been a while since I've truly posted, so yes, I'm overdoing it a bit. I've been on CoD4 until my graphics card or computer decided to disable itself.

30 days' worth of posts crammed into one day does make it seem like spam, though.

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Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 55429)

mm yeah, they have been fighting for it. Marriages were actually allowed here in SF for some time, then bush was like, LOLZ I CHANGE MY MIND USUK so yeah.

But even in a game I mean... the feature is implemented in the japanese version I believe. So...

Bush is Republican, and therefore will try to follow Republican doctrine. Republican doctrine is somewhat based off of Jeffersonian agrarianism, which is based off of traditionalism, as opposed to Hamiltonian commercialism.

Tradition is that marriage = heterosexual marriages only.

Pritcher 12-10-2007 01:39 AM

Exactly. It takes time. They are fighting for their rights and others are fighting with them and things are changing. Being gay is far far more socially acceptable now than it was even 5 or 10 years ago. Big changes in culture don't happen overnight.

You can look at as it's only a game so it's not a big deal, but that's probably true for those fighting for gay rights too. Same sex partners in import mmos aren't on the top of their list of rights to fight for.

Hessah 12-10-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 55428)
The problem is, people refuse to get used to that idea. They find it repulsing.

but many men thought the same way about women hving voting rights.. "what would they know!" was wat they were thinking... but the world came around in the end.. (well most parts of the more developed world anyway)

And yeah.. well maybe if the Americans or British have a more opened minded president / Prime Minister who made same-sex marriage a legal thing.. then people wont be able to say "that's wrong" coz its actually legal...

once people realise that gay/lesbian couples are no different from hectrosexual couples, they'll begin to accept it more...

well that's my ideal scenario and its probably gonna take 3-4 decades to go through...

on a slightly off-topic note: i read an article, where this guy donated sperms for a lesbian couple so they can have a kid... and hte lesbian couple are now separated and he was made to bear the financial burden of raising the kid!! now i think that's rediculous... (and he said he only agreed to be a sperm donor if he wont hv any responsibility for the kid)

O-mie 12-10-2007 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 55428)
Californians are more open minded.

Go to somewhere more...traditional, if you will. You will get some very strong opinions about this subject matter, lol.



The problem is, people refuse to get used to that idea. They find it repulsing.




I know, my aunt lives in colorado, lmao..part of the bible belt. And people sicken me there, its just..ew. Shes' very religious and I remember my cousin telling me once she thought people who were bi or gay were mentally retarded, lmao.

Triumph 12-10-2007 01:41 AM

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Originally Posted by kosherkid (Post 55433)
I see what your saying (good point) and well I think it'll just take time. I mean it took generations for people to get used to Blacks in the South... and I think the same will apply here. Just takes time.

People are impatient. Therefore, radicals will push for faster reform, which may lead to conflict. That's human nature.

At any rate, my spree of posting stops here. 1,000th post. Now it'll be regular posting.


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