It was an accident~ I was a bit shifty in voting for Cillia but I couldnt think of a better person to change my votes to....

I is no legal...

I am voting for Jikanu

Reasons

Has been posting a lot but not really saying anything at all.

Keeps saying there is no one suspicious and wants to know who everyone else is voting for.

Said “I told you not to suspect her”, but I can’t seem to find the post when he said that.

Seems to display great surprised emotion as if making sure everyone know he didn’t see that coming.

Went out of his way to say nice things about Hessah, Kirby, and Vasu as if he wants to buddy up with others to protect himself. He even says that the ST would need lots of friends to keep suspicion off of him. Wouldn’t a legal need the same?

He seemed a little weird about the loss of the mind drain for the legals.

link please:laugh:

Manz why ur posts always make me laugh? x_x

I would say it was because of my face but you can't see me.

But we are going OT.

Any one want to vote jikanu with me?

Those are pretty decent points you made. I'll change my vote, but it's only because I don't have any decent points against you either, LOL.


If you're a legal, well played. XD

I'll counter your points with reasonable facts.

1. I havent "been saying anything at all" because no one seems suspicious to me yet. Whoever the legels are, they're playing a pretty good game this round, and not budging an inch.

2. when the hell have i wanted to know who anyone else is voting for? and how is that a sign of a legel? all i've asked is if that there's anyone suspicious so that my vote could acctualy be worth something.

3. i HAD said that i didnt find cillia suspicious several times before in the past. check back if you need to. and once again, not the sign of a legel.

4. ...Hasnt everybody? you guys convicted Cillia for the same thing and she was Healer Julia, not a legel.

5. Idk when i tried to "buddy up" with hessah, but kirby formed an alliance with ME early on, not vice versa. And i only said that vasu was a good detective because he was the first one to go through and list the suspicion levels of everyone else >.>

6. How did i act weird about it? i just didnt know that they had lost it o.o

All your points are baseless and without any real point. If you vote me out, fine, but you'll be voting out a human.

Well i know I'm human.

there are 4 humans 2 legals 1 ST and 1 Phino

we have a 50-50 shot

but than again if we don't hit one of the baddies it's possible the humans are done for.

I pick you.

who do you pick?

If we kill off another innocent we're just hastening or deaths. we need to look at the evidence and decide together. i'm gonna look through the forum and see who i think it is.

At this point, hessah seems to be the most suspicious. She attacked cillia baselessly.

Please stay on topic

Sparky, gtfo of the thread if you're not gonna play the game or speculate on it.

Lirange asked you nicely. I dont wanna deal with it. dun really care if it hurts at this point, as you're just trolling right now.

*sigh* he deleted the posts so now i look like a schizoid... Alas. Anyway, back to the topic at hand: Manz, are my assertions at all true?

Jik is getting a bit too protective o-o

I was getting my hair cut and I just couldn't get the cilia vote problem out of my head. My question who would lie about voting for cilia when they did not? The assumption is it wouldn't be a legal because that would point the finger at the discrepancy but why would the phino do it?

There is only two reasons one is to make them look suspicious and then get voted on thus winning. But that makes it look like they want to be suspicious therefor making people not vote for them. The only other reason phino would lie about who they voted for is to cover up who they voted for because it would make It obvious that they were phino. So what kind of vote would make it obvious that you were phino?? A self vote! If phono voted for themselves they could not say that they voted for themselves. So if we look at the person who is missing a vote they must be phino.

Here is the gambit I propose and LEGALS you better listen up. We need to vote off someone other than hessah because she is phino in this scenario. Than the legals have to vote off hessah. If they don't than we vote off hessah next round because she is legal.

Of course this is all with the belief that my logic is correct.

What say you all

How? o_o

What do you mean by how

That is a pretty good point, Manz, but it doesn't really have to be a self vote thing. The phino could be someone else among the people there, trying to make other people think that he/she is a legal and get voted off. Of course, that plan didn't really work, but it's still a reasonable alternative.

Talking to leesa. i dont think im being overly defensive. just pointing out the holes in your argument.

Humans
Manzcar – really I am.
Vasu –seems to me he is human. Really looking for problems with everyone elses posts and first to point out voting problem and come up with hypothesis on it.
Leesa – He is acting like he always does. I just feel he is human

Okay that leaves one more spot on my human train, but there are 5 people to fill that spot

Hessah – I have given my thoughts on why I think she is Phino
Jikanu – I have given reasons as to why I think he is bad. But like he said it’s all just guess work on my part.
Essen – being her secretarial self nothing more.
Ralath – not digging as much as usual but not doing anything weird.
Destrus – really nothing strange here either.


So really no leads at all.

LOL

just makes the odds a little bit better is we coordinate on one of the bottom four people.

Any one want to add anything.

I'm not voting for either Hessah or Leesa yet because I'm not sure which one I think is Phino.

Vasu seems human to me.

Nothing really weird to me at the moment for these three, but not sure which are human:
Ralath
Destrus
Manzcar

Jikanu... I did find his indecisive posts strange but most of are not sure of who we want to vote for so I blame that on how he worded it. Which make him have nothing weird about him either...

So... Yeah... Haha, I got nothing. I'll just join the majority.

xD I was a bit worried that I'll die during the day coz I said I'm not Phino... After I said all that I realise it got me killed faster ~.~

Thanks Manz!

So... Jik?

I said I'll trust my own instincts but I killed Healer first hit so... I don't trust it anymore.. I'm relying on your Manz!

yea, i'm holding off my vote for hess until i can be a little sure she's not phino

manz, are you really that sure about leesa? i just get this strange feeling about him this time...


but still, not someone i want to vote to kill because he's a phino suspect for me

You guys, we need to be 100% sure of who we vote out this round. If it's human we're done for.

For example, let's say people 1 2 3 4 5 6 and 7 are the current players. 1 and 2 are the legels, 7 is the phino.

4 gets voted out, so that makes it 3 humans, 2 legels, 1 phino.

legels kill off 5. 2 humans, 2 legels, 1 phino.

Humans vote off 7. 2 humans, 2 legels.

legels kill off 6. 1 human, 2 legelss

Also, if it came down to a phino and a legel, it's obvious where the votes would go, so... yeah. if we mess up this round, then we're gonna lose the game. Make sure you're 100% sure before you vote.

i think 1 phino, 1 legal would be the only true tie unless it was legal's turn to kill.

also if we vote off phino they win and we all lose right?

and you forgot senior torturer but i guess we can just take 4 as st

Acctually, the phino could vote for itself, so the phino would get 2nd place, and the legel would get 1st.

I'm not sure of anything only that we need to find someone to kill that will help the humans.

first there are 8 people left 4 humans and 4 evils

but i agree we have to vote for someone that we feel is evil. Did you purposefully leave out the senior torturer?

So who are you 100% sure is evil??

When Phino wins the game keeps going for "2nd place" (provided that there's a point to go on I guess)

^ Ah yeah there's actually 8 people...

and it depends on who the ST end up killing?

it's too hard to predict~

we'll just play on and see wat happens?




I think Leesa is trying to frame me as a Phino?! so I wont die and she gets killed?

Coz I cant understand why the votes doesnt work out, and I'm sure as hell I didnt vote for myself.. though it could also be Ralath and Esen playing a trick on me...

Just because leesa was the last to say doesnt mean she's the one lying...

Ah yes, forgot the ST... so that makes the situation all the more dire for us humans. I'm not sure on anyone. im just saying we need to continue to investigate before we come to a decision.

Sometimes I think the least suspicious person would be more likely person to be a legal / ST...

Like.. Destrus or something...

Hm... i dont think so... destrus is always like this, even when he's a human. Ralath seems more suspicious to me...

Cillia
1. Esen
2. Hessah
3. Ralath
4. Leesa
Lvra

Hessah
1. Destrus
2. Kirby
3.

Manzcar
1. Vasu

Leesa
1. Cillia

Jikanu
1.Manzcar

Vasu
1. Jikanu

My final theory is this:
I don't think the legals voted together. If my theory is correct they didn't need to because neither of them was under suspicion so it didn't matter to them who was voted off.

I believe the Phino is lying about who they voted for because the self voted.

I think the Senior Torturer voted all by themselves to look less suspicious.

So
Hessah = Phino
Jikanu or Vasu = ST
Destrus is a legal
Esen Ralath or Leesa is the other legal

So what do you guys think?? Who do you want to vote for??

Thats true.. maybe Ralath..

i'll vote for ralath.

but i stated why i voted for vasu. im not the ST D:

o_o from unknown straight to legal in like 3 posts