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Jack_Vermillion 11-01-2007 01:01 PM

I really dont mind having low lvl people around as long they are getting out of the way or not bothering to do something stupid, such as dragging the boss everywhere. I mean... think about it as helping them level and eventually they will be of some help in the near future.

FlameGirl 11-02-2007 12:49 AM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35144)
What does taking something from a book and trying to apply it to Fiesta prove? Nothing.

I am not going to repeat my original post, but what is written there proves that most aspects of KQ's fall into a normal distribution graph. why? because its STATISTICS!!! learn it before you tell me im wrong, you havent once given me a logical, or mathematically correct response.

Decapped 11-02-2007 01:22 AM

First off, I admit I didn't read all of the posts before this one. x.x Sorry, really tired right now. If this has already been said, I apologize.

I'm still low level so this only applies to the first KQ. I don't really mind a low level character joining as long as they know what they are doing.
I can't stand it when low levels constantly ask questions and complain when they die trying to solo a monster... I had one the other day that ran straight toward the king slime and then retreated right back to the middle of the rest of the group...

I don't mind, however, when a low level (especially a cleric) knows exactly what they are doing, knows their limits, and tries to help whenever they can.

I guess it really depends on the person, not really so much on their level.

(Again, sorry if this has been said already...)

Edit: IGNORE THAT CRAP^^^^^
I just did a KQ with 5 level 5's... it sucked!!!!!
We did win though...

CursedMagus 11-02-2007 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by FlameGirl (Post 35406)
I am not going to repeat my original post, but what is written there proves that most aspects of KQ's fall into a normal distribution graph. why? because its STATISTICS!!! learn it before you tell me im wrong, you havent once given me a logical, or mathematically correct response.

The thing is, I don't understand Mathanese. All you're doing is taking something so simple and over complicating it using mathematics. All it is, is a bunch of numbers and assumptions.

FlameGirl 11-02-2007 03:48 AM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35514)
The thing is, I don't understand Mathanese. All you're doing is taking something so simple and over complicating it using mathematics. All it is, is a bunch of numbers and assumptions.

maths is simple, and just so you know, you never assume anything in maths. but you'd already know that since you're so good at picking mathematical faults.

CursedMagus 11-02-2007 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by FlameGirl (Post 35519)
maths is simple, and just so you know, you never assume anything in maths. but you'd already know that since you're so good at picking mathematical faults.

If math were so simple do you honestly think it would cause so many people stress? Hell, I wouldn't doubt it if someone committed suicide because of it. And for most people, i'm sure thats why they drop out because stuff like that gets over complicated and just isn't worth learning. Please, you assume plenty. You can't know something is correct (at first at least). You have to assume that is.

FlameGirl 11-02-2007 04:06 AM

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Originally Posted by CursedMagus (Post 35523)
If math were so simple do you honestly think it would cause so many people stress? Hell, I wouldn't doubt it if someone committed suicide because of it. And for most people, i'm sure thats why they drop out because stuff like that gets over complicated and just isn't worth learning. Please, you assume plenty. You can't know something is correct (at first at least). You have to assume that is.

LOL, the last 3 pages of this thread is us arguing. But since you havent yet pointed out a relevant and correct arguement to my original post, i think i can safely say you don't know maths. So my original post still stands in its original glory until you can PROVE otherwise.

Albireo 11-02-2007 04:07 AM

Ah i know what the problem is *nods knowingly*

Math is simple for the intellectual and can be used to logicaly prove the value of statements based on previous givens.

If you didnt really understand that idea then you are in the other faction...
i call them the intellectually challenged (xD)
BECAUSE they do not understand how you can use mathimatical functions to get from the given to the conclusion.

BUUUUUT mathimatics doesnt really need to apply here because the facts are swayed by the oppinions of others tilting in favour of one or the other.
in other words.... let Magus think whatever the hell he wants
(they do say ignorance is bliss)

Hessah 11-02-2007 04:13 AM

Thanks Albireo, i dont understand 100% wat you just said, but it sounds like it's good enough to break the debate about maths or no maths... XD

The thing is, i believe the original post is for high level KQ... while FlameGirl's theory is more for lower lvl KQ.... that's what I believe anyway..

but i rather not get into the Maths tornado... looks dangerous

CursedMagus 11-02-2007 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by FlameGirl (Post 35533)
LOL, the last 3 pages of this thread is us arguing. But since you havent yet pointed out a relevant and correct arguement to my original post, i think i can safely say you don't know maths. So my original post still stands in its original glory until you can PROVE otherwise.

I do know math but I hate it with a passion. But if I don't know "maths" then its obvious you never paid attention in English. Your spelling and grammar errors are atrocious. You don't need math to help others understand why a Kingdom Quest fails or succeeds or whatever. There's always a logical explanation behind it that DOESN'T involve mathematics. Generally the reason for any Kingdom Quest failing is the lack of strategy and team work. Most people will run off and just do what they think they're supposed to do. And when someone tries to suggest something they ignore it.


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