I'm not the one making a positive truth claim about the supernatural.

Nor am i the one claiming that all the matter in the universe was compacted into a single unit, and exploded, regardless of the fact that that unit- be it singularity or not- would have to have come from somewhere, as would the thing that created it, leading to an everlasting cycle with nothing to break the chain.

Turtles, all the way down.

Im speaking sheerly of the laws of science. Matter cannot be naturally created, nor destroyed, according to the Law of Conservation of Matter. Therefore, the only thing that could possibly broken the cycle is something that defied the laws of science.

You're implying that causality existed before our universe did. That also implies linear time also existed independent of our universe. If you have evidence of this, please present it for a faculty somewhere, as it will revolutionize physics as we know it.

Sadly, im not a Traflmadorian, so i have no ability to prove anything about the nature of time. However, isnt it rather natural that those things would exist before the universe? Im just saying, where did matter come from if matter cannot create matter? as for casuality, i dont see where it comes in.

Many things about the universe are counter-intuitive.

Im not asking about many things, im asking about this one thing. im asking for proof that a law can defy itself.

Take some physics courses. I simply can't condense an entire education down into a pithy forum post.

You forget, im in public-highschool. not much open yet, nor is it anything im deeply interested in. im just asking for proof that one law (a law of science being defined as something that is true entirely and describes how things work) is false in this situation, in spite of the fact that they're still teaching it in the textbooks.

and i dont think an entire course is gonna be focused on one law. A hypothesis or theory? Perhaps. but not a single law.