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Triumph 07-31-2009 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 366421)
What about Giratina? My friend caught that Pokemon. Is he banned?

Giratina is uber tier. So yes.

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 366421)
He likes pokemon that looks cool, and can evolve. So, no Buizel, he thinks it looks gay. He got a Gyrados, whose Waterfall is stronger than his Surf.

Waterfall is a physical move, and Gyarados is a physical attacker. Waterfall is an excellent choice for Gyarados, whereas Surf is special and therefore is not.

Buizel's fully evolved form is Floatzel. Buizel therefore is obsolete.

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 366421)
Garchomp. Knows Dig, Dragon Claw, Dragon Rush, Crunch. I don't like his moveset.

Dragon Rush is a waste, and Dig is useless. Crunch does not give any STAB bonuses. Earthquake, Outrage, Dragon Claw, and Stone Edge are a much better moveset.

I realized I didn't post images of my team. So, here they are:
http://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/248.pnghttp://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/142.pnghttp://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/330.pnghttp://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/490.pnghttp://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/477.pnghttp://www.smogon.com/download/sprites/dp/450.png

Enraya 07-31-2009 01:49 AM

waterfall is not special?!?!?!

What i never knew that!

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wth I typed that all in caps and it transitioned into no caps LOL. ._.

kirbysprite 07-31-2009 02:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 366601)
Waterfall is a physical move, and Gyarados is a physical attacker. Waterfall is an excellent choice for Gyarados, whereas Surf is special and therefore is not.

Though, wouldn't it just be better to get a special attacker, and use Surf, since it has more power than Waterfall, and both have same accuracy.

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 366601)
Buizel's fully evolved form is Floatzel. Buizel therefore is obsolete.

Well, actually I was telling him to get a Buizel and train him to a Floatzel, but he think's Floatzel looks gay.

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 366601)
Dragon Rush is a waste, and Dig is useless. Crunch does not give any STAB bonuses. Earthquake, Outrage, Dragon Claw, and Stone Edge are a much better moveset.

Wait. Crunch doesn't have STAB, yet you put Stone Edge. Is it because Stone Edge is stronger than Crunch? And why two Dragon moves?

Can I have some names with that team? I don't know who the 3rd or 4th Pokemon are... I also noticed, most of your pokemon are Rock or Ground. What do you do when there's a Water Pokemon?


And where did you learn all this stuff? Sorry for bombarding you with questions...I'm just so interested...

Triumph 07-31-2009 03:13 AM

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 366635)
Though, wouldn't it just be better to get a special attacker, and use Surf, since it has more power than Waterfall, and both have same accuracy.

A Gyarados with one or two Dragon Dances can easily sweep many Pokémon. You won't find that many physical water sweepers, especially when the trend is going more toward special sweepers lately. Dragon Dance makes Gyarados quite literally an unstoppable force if even one is successfully executed.

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 366635)
Wait. Crunch doesn't have STAB, yet you put Stone Edge. Is it because Stone Edge is stronger than Crunch? And why two Dragon moves?

Stone Edge for countering most of the other types that may not be covered by the other moves in your moveset. Plus, with the high critical, it's definitely worth trading for in place of Crunch.

Outrage is a move that proceeds for 2-3 turns, which is more than you need in terms of Dragon moves, especially if you are choiced.

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Originally Posted by kirbysprite (Post 366635)
Can I have some names with that team? I don't know who the 3rd or 4th Pokemon are... I also noticed, most of your pokemon are Rock or Ground. What do you do when there's a Water Pokemon?

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Originally Posted by Triumph (Post 366375)
Overused:
Tyranitar, Garchomp, Aerodactyl, Gliscor, Flygon, Heatran.

It's the same, but the ordering I have is a bit off. In order it's Tyranitar, Aerodactyl, Flygon, Heatran, Gliscor, Garchomp.

It's a Sandstorm team. Most of my team can drop any water Pokémon that switches in, with the dubious exception of Kyogre, who counters the initial Sandstorm. As Kyogre isn't seen on the metagaming scene very much, even in the casual tiers, that isn't an issue.

The only remote threat that is Water is Swampert, but with a 4x weakness to Grass, Heatran solves the problem with Hidden Power Grass, if all else fails. In addition, Heatran also counters any Grass combatant that comes in. Most modern water sweepers are special attack based and/or special defense based, such as Vaporeon, which means the physical sweepers of the team will easily take them down for neutral damage.

If you want to know more... Bulbapedia, Serebii.net, and Smogon University are all good sources. Smogon is where most casual gamers get their Pokémon, so I would suggest against following them word for word. However, Smogon University is also the only source that considers Garchomp an uber, as all the others still consider him overused.

Rightclaw 07-31-2009 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by lightningmystix (Post 366607)
waterfall is not special?!?!?!

What i never knew that!

edit
wth I typed that all in caps and it transitioned into no caps LOL. ._.

I think Diamond and Pearl changed the game mechanics a tiny bit.

Enraya 07-31-2009 09:52 AM

^ OHH!
I see...

Fighterboy 07-31-2009 03:32 PM

http://i335.photobucket.com/albums/m...0064908001.png

Woo Arceus!!!


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