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Vasu 04-29-2009 06:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Ivramire (Post 329528)
I guess if you assume the existence of a god, you assume the existence of both retribution and the inherent afterlife in which it will be doled out.


That's the way I understand it.

But that has no basis whatsoever. Alright, you can argue that god is the creator of the world, therefore we think god exists. While that presents a problem of it's own, atleast you can understand why they're saying that. Now why the hell do we want to hypothesise an afterlife? (pun intended :tongue:)

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Wait... This has nothing to do with the current subject in the argument but something kinda struck me.
If the bible stories are true and he created the world in 7 days.
If God is so All-powerfull, then why did he need to rest on the 7th day ? If he is a spiritual being he shouldn't get fatigue.
Dude, there's no point in asking these questions, because they'll conveniently be dumped in the "figurative" bin.

Ivramire 04-29-2009 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Vasu
But that has no basis whatsoever. Alright, you can argue that god is the creator of the world, therefore we think god exists. While that presents a problem of it's own, atleast you can understand why they're saying that. Now why the hell do we want to hypothesise an afterlife? (pun intended )


We didn't hypothesise an afterlife.


Scripture writers did. In fact, most religions have their own version of what happens after we all kick it.

Vasu 04-29-2009 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ivramire (Post 329591)
We didn't hypothesise an afterlife.


Scripture writers did. In fact, most religions have their own version of what happens after we all kick it.

And there is once again, no proof that such and such will happen after we kick it.

Ivramire 04-29-2009 09:09 AM

You've perhaps missed my point.


All my recent posts were expounding on my rationale behind the ''god=parent'' analogy.


Not on anything else.

Vasu 04-29-2009 09:20 AM

I conceded that point, LOL.

Phantom Badger 05-01-2009 04:02 PM

I'm not sure if it's been posted but anti-semitism is in the bible, the ones I know are in the book of John. Now is God was real, and Jesus is God in the form of a Human then surely he wouldn't let Racism be put in his holy book, but at the time that was accepted as an all around fact about the Jewish, that they were below us. So when these people though up of the bible story (That's what I believe happened, they amde it up) They thought it would be okay to include that.

pigspark 05-01-2009 04:05 PM

but is the bible really right or is the other religions true?

Vasu 05-01-2009 04:13 PM

@ BDEX

There is so much bloodshed, racism and violence in the OT, that it's hard to understand how people can equate all this with a benevolent god. Sure, the "times were different" in the OT, but being omnipotent, you would think god could come up with a non-violent solution.


@ pigspark

There is no way to know.

Phantom Badger 05-01-2009 04:26 PM

Allrighty then... another attempt of mine shot down again @_@

Vasu 05-01-2009 05:10 PM

It's not exactly "shot down" I'm just pointing out that while those points are kinda valid, they will never be accepted.


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