The change isnt drastic though. perhaps a little difference in tax, a small little difference in how law enforcement acts, but never a war ending. never a really important difference.

Peaceful change is all about the increments. What you're wanting will require a full-scale, bloody revolution.

Not neccesarilly. what about the civil rights movement?

You might want to read a bit more about the civil rights movement if you don't think it was large scale and bloody.

It was large scale, but only groups like the black panthers were bloody. Im speaking of Dr. King's branch of it.

Because we can just ignore the parts that we don't like. Might as well say Torquemada was just misunderstood.

I digress, because I wasn't saying that the protesters themselves were violent. I said it was bloody. And it was.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedom_Summer
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mississ...worker_murders
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Selma,_...ights_movement

Do you need more? I know I'm using wiki, but feel free to go to the actual sources if the veracity is in doubt. I'm not doing primary research for you.

No, police were brutal as well. Recall the notorious method of blasting them with water?

Ahhh. i thought you were referring to the protesters, not the authorities. In that case, yes, i agree, though today that would stir up unwanted international attention.

Right, because we in the US really don't want any sort of negative international attention. We've carefully maintained our reputation around the world. Oh, wait...

Ah, good point... but it would be much more outrageous if we started doing it in our own country. Wrong, yes, but it's the truth.