This is getting interesting. But I still think it was unprofessional.
Also based on the rhumor I heard about the reason behind Dakkon no longer being a GM, then the person saying this should be in very deep water...

( I fail at forums and didnt want to click the wrong quote thing and cause thread havoc. :3 )

As Yosei said, we are indeed volunteers. We do our job because it's what we love to do, we want the game and the community to grow and be a positive experience.

As GL's we are limited as to what we can do in-game. We can't fix account problems, thats why we direct the players to the correct people that can. Often in reply to that I'm told "(insert ex-staff name) was so much better than you, you suck and don't deserve your job, you should be fired". I'm truely sorry that some people feel that way, but there is a procedure in place, and we have to follow it. I wish I could help each player that came to me with an account issue, but it's just not possible.

None of us is online 24/7, and often when we are, there is 30+ people at a time talking to us. We multi-task the different chats as best we can, and sadly I'm sure a few whispers/shouts might get missed. It's not intentional that we don't reply to everyone, it can be quite the task sometimes to type fast enough. We don't want anyone to feel that they are being ignored or that their question is less important than anyone elses. This is what I've noticed often leads to the such-and-such staff was better comments.

I think the ultimate goal should be for everyone to take a more mature standpoint when addressing each other. From both a staff and player point of view.

If something in-game is causing hurt feelings, take a moment away from the game. I know we all look like neat pixel people, but on the other side of that group of pixels is a person with very human feelings.


And as a side note, the [Notice] feature is only for the local map. The serverwide messages now appear in the main chat space as a greenish color text. :)

I'm going to take the initiative and bite the bullet on this situation. This has had nothing to do with Silky or the GMs. If you want to blame anyone and gank over this entire scenario you are welcome to gank me.

Normally I don't even pay attention to the forums all over but this a big enough deal that I do no want players blaming the wrong people. I know exactly how that feelings being blamed for things the GMs or other GLs did and never being able to speak up on it.

So here you are folks. Technically I am on the fence with Dakkon. I use to be on the 'Dakkon does no wrong' side of things until I learned a lot of what happened behind the scenes, including him compromising the GL program entirely. Yes, he nearly caused the entire program to go poof after he retired from Outspark. He told people things about us to players that shouldn't have been mentioned AT ALL.

So then I look back on all the players who are on this "Dakkon does no wrong" and I had to ask myself "What do they really know". Truth is, not much unless you've been on the GLs side of the fence or have talked to Dakkon in IMs, in game, etc since his last post on the forums as GM_Dakkon.

I learned a harsh lesson in trusting people you work with in this and in a sense it's carried a negative impact on my position. Do I hate Dakkon, nope. Do I respect him? Not anymore for all the trouble he caused a lot of innocent people.

I want people understand that by singling out Dakkon you have alienated Outspark staff who still work to make the game better. Yes, alienated. All anyone says is how Dakkon was the only one who cared, who was the only GM who did anything for Outspark. How do you think the Outspark staff who worked behind the scenes felt during all this? How would YOU feel if you worked 12+ hours a day and sacrificed your personal life while someone else walked around in the spotlight?

Dakkon did a great many things, but he also did some things that caused a lot of people problems. Just as I have apparently done in this situation.

I hear players complain all the time about lack of staff interaction but yet when they are around all they do is gank, berate, and harass them when they do come around. Do you honestly think that's a positive expectation for them to look forward to when they come in the game?

SKiNG does not need to investigate, I'll tell him up front because I believe in taking responsibility over one's actions. Do blame Outspark, the GMs, the GLs, or the other staff on this matter.

I am your target in this matter, and that is all there will be.

With that I will just step down from position as GL and walk away. That will be one less person to deal with in game, and one less person around to cause your lives discomfort as this is an obvious issue. I will not apologize for what I said, but I will apologize for not being professional.

But everyone do me a favor, spend less time dwelling on the past and look to the future. Stop forshadowing the others who are working hard to try and make your game better. Carry those memories you have and apply them to the here and now.

Hate me all you want but be mature about it and don't hate people who do not deserve such. That's just wrong.

With that, may this bring closure to all involved in this. Through the ups and downs of this position, even during the negative moments, it was still a pleasure to be able to help those who needed it.

First: You guys type/reply way too fast D:

second:
I appreciate what you are saying Nei, and It must feel terrible for people to say thigns like that, but truely I'm not sure as what to say, I never really liked any one GM above another, or GL for that matter (although, being honest you were the only GL i have heard of XD). I for one appreciate all the work you are doing for us but some people are too simple to see that and say still like "____ was better, you suck !"
But as I said in my first comment this was childish, but I think you just momentarily lost control, and flipped out as we all do from time to time.

^Agreed.

I don't hold any hard feelings toward you, Nei, just because I don't particularly care what the GMs/GLs do for the most part. I don't whisper you guys with a thousand messages when you are on or dance next to you guys when you guys have a dance party (though sometimes I do look to take screenshots of your costumes. xD).

But at the same time, I don't think people that work for Outspark should take offense at these people.

Also, on a side-note, it might be good to make that post on the official forums.

Lmfao since outspark staff treated me like shit,
and dakkon was the only one who ever did anything good
I'll still side with him, whatever he did to outspark after leaving
is well deserved to them and there shitty staff.

[therapist]
And we were making such progress aswell ! D:
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Mikey has no reason any more to be diplomatic to Outspark or its staff...

Okay read all the wall of text you guys put up.

The main thing I have a problem with is the fact that anything negative towards anyone was said in shout. I mean what would a new person to the game think when they see an announcment saying that so and so is filth...They might not know who the announcment is talking about but to see a person with power say something so childish really inconsiderate to all the people who have to see it, even if its their first time playing.

IMO the thread was the action not really the topic...Dont know id someone already talked about this but in my reading SKiNG, Asp, and Nei didnt mention anything about teh action they just talked about the things that wee said. (Please correct me if im wrong)

I was almost too afraid to post thinking i might get shot if i said something wrong...

Hmmm.. a lot as been said. All in all, every human being has a right to feel the way they feel. Even if others do not share those feelings. It is what makes us feelings and you cannot truly control feelings.

I think a few of the above comments have been made a little on the defensive side and maybe a little of trying to justify or at least make an excuse for the comments made in-game.

I was under the impression that no one was being blamed per-say, but that this was a discussion about professionalism. Since, apparently I was wrong, I shall step back into the shadows and continue to just simply watch this thread as I do in other matters. Especially ones that have to do with he-said-she-said.

But, the whole point of my fist post was to simply point out, that as a BUSINESS, (and I have defended Outspark's action A Lot, by referring to them as a business, not a game) the Action taken by whoever made the comments was not on a business-like level and could cause worse problems in the long run as related to the business, not relating to anyone's feelings or opinions.