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Ulrike 04-23-2008 10:49 PM

break the ToS, get punished. Pretty clear cut.

Falcomist 04-23-2008 10:54 PM

GM's and such are checking other source of evident.

I will not post my opinion of this because really reading from all of these Im kinda either crying inside that ppl are supporting me or the fact that ppl are relating some of these issues to real life or themselves. But hey these are all opinions and like I said ill keep in contact I suppose. This is my first offence and my only one if i get unban. Uchi Itachi accnt has been banned and deleted in the game. Mine has not yet been deleted.

Also Yosei nothing to u but plz stop comparing my actions to what u would do. Cause really everyone is different and this is the first time I cracked when I just wanted to defend my friends. MY FRIENDS come before anything and yes I went over the border line. I am responsible for my mistakes and I know I breached those terms. In all I wont flaming or anything just yet until this is handled maturely by the GM's. Thank you all that have been supporting me.

Also if they banned my accnt. I've been offered free plvls from about every single high lvl person i know. However, I dont intend to come back unless other wise. Though Im thinking of everyones feelings in game, I dont see why I should come back to an account I didnt spend my time in.

I helped the community on lvling, on having fun, showing videos to see what they might expect in the future. Trying to keep this community together and improve it was my greatest goal like Meek I think =P. Of course the action I took didnt help that, my aim is always to meet new ppl, help them, and enjoy the game like I have.

Also, There is no petition yet because I'm letting things play out and waiting for their decision

There have been constant emails to GM's, CSR, and Sking on this issue ( maybe 30+ emails) so im sure there tired of getting them xD.

Anyways Everyone im letting this issue play out. Post ur opinion and what not. Im am not racist to any nationality whatsoever. The SS only shows half of the story and me trash talking but nothing more. But hey it depend on how ppl interpret it. If people are saying things in spanish to me like Stupido or possibly other words * no SS so no proof sorry believe it or not * do you find it fair they dont get punishment the same as others? Anyways thank you everyone for the support and I have no hate toward anyone who approves of me being banned. The punishment is to strict in my opinion or the reason the issue just came up and that this is my first offence.

Again... Stop comparing this to real life. Its a game. These things come up and I hate it im being used as the biggest example of it all. Dont compare my action to urs because I know my mistakes. If you would of done something differently thats good * gives u props* but no one knows how much stress I go through in life and in game. You trying rebuilding a guild 3 times then we can talk ^^.

Sayonara and hopefully u will be hearing from me soon ^^. I apologize for the long post and if any sort of breaching the terms on this forum

Spirit 04-23-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Falcomist (Post 131544)

I apologize for the long post and if any sort of breaching the terms on this forum


LMAO - nope - believe it or not - we have had longer. :)

Triumph 04-23-2008 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey3536 (Post 131041)
Oh Maaaan that loser trash-talked Zukiz..... I tell
you if i was there i woulda been right on in there with falco
and uchi mouthing that guy off... And at skiiing where he says "want
a second chance make a second character"... wow thats kinda pathetic.
Those two spent good money on alot of CS items and are almost at the lvl
cap, to ask them to restart cuz of that is rediculous. And yes i spoke to
falco and that was the first time he ever got in trouble. Falco would NEVER
do anything mean or hurtful unless you really pissed him off.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikey3536 (Post 131167)
I never meant it like that. I meant it like how do u perm- ban someone who has spent alot of time and money on your game, for such a silly little reason, its just rediculous to me.


And i hope so hessah.... I meen i dont no what they did to zukiz but it takes
ALOT to get falco mad. Hes a cute fluffy asian lol i never even though tht ever got angry

I shall address this short and to the point, hopefully without bias.

First, the issue of whether he will do "anything mean or hurtful unless you really pissed him off." Well, I shall be critical now. Hate me if you want.

I was dismissed from adminship shortly after the return of Falcomist from GardonOfRecluse, after Shadow_Shot relinquished his mastership of the guild. Yes, I will be bitter and to this day my respect for Falcomist has diminished greatly: I specifically stated that I was taking time off to study for my semester finals. Upon returning in January after my winter break, I was relocated to the rank of "Guard."

This is after 21 of 35 BusouRenkin members had quit the guild. Annie and RokNRolr (known as Rokky) were the only ones left, after Shadow_Shot announced a temporary reprieve from BusouRenkin. I was the Master of BusouRenkin during a time when no one wanted to assume the role.

I fail to see how a month's worth of inactivity merits dismissal. So yes, I shall say it: Falcomist changed. No longer the helpful person he claims to be.

Secondly, that assertion is on the basis of your opinion. Whereas in the real world money may buy you out of everything, it's more difficult to apply that in-game. Consequently, money spent is a failed investment, since the legal binding in which all of us agreed upon was broken. As the terms of service state:

Quote:

Originally Posted by Outspark Terms of Service, Article I, Sections D-G

D) You may not use any unlawful, threatening, abusive, obscene, harmful, defamatory, vulgar, harassing, hateful, racially, ethnically or otherwise objectionable language toward any other player, in any language as deemed inappropriate by support personnel. The availability of a profanity/language filter is not to grant permission or license to use such language in any form.

E) You may not threaten, harass, nor cause another player distress or create unwanted attention to other players, as interpreted or determined by Outspark support personnel at their sole and absolute discretion.

F) You may not organize or participate in any player association or group which is based on, or espouses any, racist, sexist, anti-religious, anti-ethnic, or other hatemongering philosophies. You may not organize or participate in any player association which habitually violates the Outspark Terms of Service and/or Game/Forum policies.

G) You may not use any sexually explicit language which is graphic, inappropriate, or depicts sexual acts including, but not limited to, sexual language of a violent or threatening nature directed at another individual or group of individuals, or otherwise deemed inappropriate by Outspark support personnel.

Infringement results in action at the discretion of Outspark personnel. Whereas I feel the punishment is rather harsh, it appears Outspark is setting an example, as others have stated, in order to dissuade racism. Tolerance of racism, as stated before, results in decreased IGN and GameSpot ratings and consequently results in a reduced consumer base. They can't allow it.

Falcomist 04-23-2008 11:27 PM

okay Triumph. Your bringing some personal things to me that you've never addressed to me in the first place. Why is that? Why do u think I knew if u were off a month break or not? no one told me about any of that. How can I keep you in guild if I didnt know anything in the beginning. Further more u never contacted me about the concern and none of the guildmates had told me either.

On a side note your already addressing the fact that I breached those terms and that I already know I have and Im ready for a punishment, however people feel the punishment is too harsh and that includes me. You have no respect for me? I'm sure I've helped you more then once and Im sure that I didnt know you were out for a month studying. If I had did then I would still leave u in the guild even today. I also always respect you but I dont see why you dont even confront me till now.

Now im going off topic. Anyways If people think I have changed then so be it.

A comment about the high lvl shouldn't be banned part. Its not the fact that higher level have a higher chance of not being banned, but the fact that people are upset because they found out I was banned. I dont have any special privledges.

Again sorry for going off topic.

Triumph 04-23-2008 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcomist (Post 131553)
okay Triumph. Your bringing some personal things to me that you've never addressed to me in the first place. Why is that? Why do u think I knew if u were off a month break or not? no one told me about any of that. How can I keep you in guild if I didnt know anything in the beginning. Further more u never contacted me about the concern and none of the guildmates had told me either.

On a side note your already addressing the fact that I breached those terms and that I already know I have and Im ready for a punishment, however people feel the punishment is too harsh and that includes me. You have no respect for me? I'm sure I've helped you more then once and Im sure that I didnt know you were out for a month studying. If I had did then I would still leave u in the guild even today. I also always respect you but I dont see why you dont even confront me till now.

Now im going off topic. Anyways If people think I have changed then so be it.

A comment about the high lvl shouldn't be banned part. Its not the fact that higher level have a higher chance of not being banned, but the fact that people are upset because they found out I was banned. I dont have any special privledges.

Again sorry for going off topic.

To the Mods: I'm aware this is off-topic.

To Falcomist: I'll PM you if you like, to continue this discussion.

I accept responsibility if the issue was never presented before you. However, I contacted Rokky, Shadow_Shot, and Angeloslite, requesting that my message be relayed and inquiring as to why Yuianne and I were dismissed. As the message never reached you, I am at fault.

However, a prelude to our dismissal was that certain members were complaining about inactivity of the admins. Well, the reason I feel my respect has diminished is because of the fact that Meek, Shadow_Shot, Kimahri, Annie, Angeloslite, and you were relatively inactive along with Yuianne and I. To this day, it appears as though I was what Outspark did to you and Uchiha_Itachi - setting an example. It is not a perfect analogy; but it serves its purpose.

I am well aware as to you have helped me before, and for that I am grateful. The old adage is "Don't cry over spilled milk." Well, no use crying about it now; I wanted to tie up some loose ends before either you or I left this game. With that, I am sorry to see you go, despite the turbulence that has occurred.

Falcomist 04-23-2008 11:52 PM

Could I please have a Moderator close this thread please? ^^ As this thread was made without my consent, and I do believe that this issue should not have been addressed to the public.

Spirit 04-24-2008 12:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Falcomist (Post 131557)
Could I please have a Moderator close this thread please? ^^ As this thread was made without my consent, and I do believe that this issue should not have been addressed to the public.

We only close threads if it is requested by the OP or we deem them inappropriate. Sorry.

baronskippy 04-24-2008 12:25 AM

it's just unfortunate that instances like this happen, I didn't see anything bad but then again i'm not as touchy about it because it happens and I've seen people make remarks like that IRL from people that I wouldave never expected when the right provication is applied, myself regretfully included.

Sometimes the best of people say the worst of things for the best of reasons, it's a screwy black white black grey world with many reasons for many actions bot good and bad. We can just hope for the best, but in the outcome of this decision and the future management of the game.

Good Luck Falco *hugs*

MikeyG 04-24-2008 12:55 AM

Spirit please close the thread then at falcos request.

Rightclaw 04-24-2008 01:06 AM

Closed.


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