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*If Destrus did not assume this along with the fact that my avatar is a picture of a Mage in RO, that I have Magus in my name, and that I constantly only praise Mages, he'd be a nublet* |
Archers can easily kill mages, lol. I fought lilian's mage in gw when she was 50 or 51 *I can't remember* and I was 42 or 43. I have the screencaps somewhere, haha, and I got her pretty damn close to death. =o Archers have SPR too. honestly, you should close your mouth about archers unless you play one and make one and put it to the test =p because I've tested mine - and I have never once felt inferior to another player or class. |
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I'd rather jab myself in the eyes with a rusty fork then even touch an Archer. We'll see. Let me hit level 59 on Apoline and then i'll start leveling myself up on Teva and then we can fight and see just how well Archers fair against Mages. |
Because it was just me and her when we had a 1v1 for like an hour. =P Nobody else was even around. If you don't believe me, feel free to ask her, we both have screenies too. You seem to think archers are a terrible class. And they are to many people, because most people do not know how to build them. =) |
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Yes, yes I do. What do they have that the other classes don't have? Besides Nature's Protection but thats so weak. Stupid Archers keep using it when i'm nearby. >:[ |
What do they have that nobody else has? Higher evasion, Higher aim, which is important; example - when some of my guildies and I (we're level 43, 45, 45, and whoever we let powerlevel or whatever) level in ancient elven woods, my being there is the difference between leveling there or not, since they have much lower aim than I do, and much lower damage than I do. So, if I were a mage, I still wouldn't be useful in that situation because I'd not be able to often hit the monsters. Also, we are more buff than a mage is - and we can do just as much damage with our DoT and our normal attacks. Most times in KQ or during a boss fight, I will get aggroed by the boss because I outdamage the others. There have been many times that I've substituted as a tank when our fighters were busy because I can hold aggro with my damage, and survive it with ease. Anyways, ask lilian when she comes on. I have to wait until photobucket is done with maintenance to upload screens. |
I highly doubt Fiesta will make a useless class that doesn't have anything that no body else has, to be honest. What kind of a game will be stupid enough to make a class that's useless like that?
Archers are excellent damage dealers. Just because they don't deal the damage all at once doesn't mean they are crap. I, as a cleric, would love to party/train with a bunch of archers any time. They kill fast and they don't drop like ants. Don't get me wrong, I am not saying mages aren't better - I am sure mages are wonderful in their own ways, but archers are definitely not inferior to all classes. It all depends on how you raise and play the class. And I must say - you would need to have partied with decent archers for a fair bit before you can actually appreciate what they do. I've been partying with the two most awesome archers throughout most of my OB (and one in CB), and I really don't know how I would have leveled in a decent amount of time without them. They can be just as good as mages if they want to be, and vice versa. I don't think there will ever be an answer as to which class is better. They always have their own advantages and disadvantages - the debates will never end. |
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Aww <3 *blush* but yeah, totally agree. also, I was surfing a japanese wiki for this game and archers are supposed to have a level 20 skill that buffs the party's accuracy, and another at 47 which buffs the crit rate. Apparently we don't have these ;_; |
Oooh crit rate buff would kick ass, acc too for that matter. I thought I'd read somewhere once a long time ago about archers having buffs, but I just forgot all about it.
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There are a few more attack skills we're supposed to have too. I didn't look up other classes, but I might later on and post info about them =3 |
Crit buffs?! -Droooooools-
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See now I want to start playing my archer again.
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Mhm~ :3 |
Nice~
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xD!
Whutsa KQ :D
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Archers are mistaken as inferior damager dealers compared to Mages. This is because in raw output, Mages -are- the better damage dealers. They deal magic attack which is more effective against certain monsters, and their attacks are purely based on damage, and therefore will initially serve as the better damage dealer.
However, people mistake Archers to be simple damage dealers, and therefore, because of this, they think that's what they should be gauged as. Archers are really useful in a party, and the higher the lvl, the more apparent this becomes. Their DoTs (Damage over Time) can stack, and server as a good way to diminish boss or elite monster HP, and at 51, they get a Posion damage AoE, which works really well in fast AoE parties. Also, they recieve an attack speed self-buff at lv60, and even more impressive skills during their 60s. |
I posted this in a similiar thread where classes were being argued, and yes I realize that it has nothing to do with KQs; however, the same theory could be applied to levels as with classes.....
My personal opinion. GMs > ALL of us combined!!!! :eek: Also, WHY can we (and I say we, so as not to point any one person out in general) can we not just accept that everybody has their PREFERRED character they play. They play this character because THEY like it. It does not make any other class better than the other, it does not make any other class worse than the others. It is an on-line game meant to be played with other people and other classes. This means all classes have their weaknesses and strengths. Together we can kick ass against the mobs, alone we can do the same but it is easier and more fun when you have friends to help you. I will stop here before I get in trouble. :D |
^Agreed |
^^ I will 3rd that. Thank you Spirit.
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I better not see anymore "archers are useless" comments...
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I find archer to be completely useful in kq cause of poison dmg... anyways its so hard to lead lower lvls to conquer dragon KQ * starts yelling at them haha* |
While we all have our own preferred classes we also have our own opinion about other classes. And rather than attacking the persons opinion on that class, why not debate about it? Hm... i'll open a thread for that soon then. ^-^
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We were debating, with valid proof :3 Your debate lacked substance though, so anyways~ la la la~ |
That seems a little... Arrogant. Ok, they may be useless in Slime, Mara, Gold Hill, Robo, Mini Dragon- Wait, was I trying to argure for them...?
Eh, it changes for clerics, based on the whole heal/revive thing, but having a Lv5 fighter in Slime does nothing but increase chance of phail. |
Your icon....scares the BEJEEZUS out of me ;_;
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XD ROFL I <3 that avatar. Back on topic, I think low lvl people in KQs are fine. Yesterday, I was lvl 17 and I went on the Mara KQ. I remember that everyone there was really nice to me and explained all the things thoroughly. I was revived, got in a party, and everyone gave me good directions. I think it really matters who is in the KQ. We succeeded, with no problem, so I think low lvls are ok. After all, everyone has to start somewhere don't they? |
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Slightly on topic: I got one level closer to making future Mini Dragons phail.
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*rolls eyes* This attitude is why you always think people are "Attacking" you =P |
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^ that goes exactly the same for Mage
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yeah, mages too. archers have enough dex it's usually not a problem. and since they deal damage through DOT skills rather than their normal attack, they are still somewhat useful if they can stay alive.
and clerics always have heal, so you know. |
yes.. i feel the most useful as a low lvl in KQ when i'm a cleric hahah
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especially by the time you hit gold hill. a cleric can spend all day in a KQ doing nothing but reviving.
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i help mine in GH XD
I would like to think i'm pretty good at mining LOL :D |
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I really want to say something to that but i'm sure i'd just get banned. Thats how places like this are. But, whatever. I'm done with this thread. |
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:D Sorry, I couldn't resist. |
Then say it to me in a PM. |
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