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Phibrizzo 02-23-2008 01:12 PM

since x-trap was reimplemented I sometimes have sudden video lags when I change maps D:

just like: GotD - all okay > go to MT - I can barely see what's going around > enter ELD - everything just fine again. o-o

I never had this kinda problem, and I'm sure my PC can do more than just handle the video config lol''

WizardsRequiem 02-23-2008 03:00 PM

I can't stop laughing! xD

O-mie 02-23-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Phibrizzo (Post 95762)
since x-trap was reimplemented I sometimes have sudden video lags when I change maps D:

just like: GotD - all okay > go to MT - I can barely see what's going around > enter ELD - everything just fine again. o-o

I never had this kinda problem, and I'm sure my PC can do more than just handle the video config lol''


I didn't think it did anything to me really but now that you mention this, I do tend to get random spikes of lag at random since the patch. <_>

Yosei 02-23-2008 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Zucchini (Post 95755)
X-trap interrupts my gameplay sometimes, but have faith in the GMs, they're trying to do their best. Imagine having to go through 1000 PMs when you login AND still have to think of ways to keep the bots at bay.

Yeah, and thats only part of their job. We aren't getting much done by sitting back and complaining. We just have to be patient and hope they find a solution soon. Perhaps if anyone here has any knowledge on any better software, they could suggest it to a GM via PM?

AngellicDiety 02-23-2008 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Yosei (Post 95817)
Yeah, and thats only part of their job. We aren't getting much done by sitting back and complaining. We just have to be patient and hope they find a solution soon. Perhaps if anyone here has any knowledge on any better software, they could suggest it to a GM via PM?

There is no better software.

Punkbuster is less invasive, works better, has more compatability with other systems, but at the end of the day it will still lag you when it performs its scans.

Valve Anti Cheat is possibly the best solution, but its not meant for MMO's.

Gameguard is too invasive. Its kernel hooks will make you cringe. If it cannot secure a hold on the kernel it will shut down your computer.

XTrap is just a piece of crap.

THe real solution, yosei, is to have none at all.

Had any of the people at outspark attended the 2007 game-developer's conference, EPIC games gave a lecture about dealing with cheats, hackers, botters, or anything alike.

The solution is to get rid of them manually. Threatened with lawsuites individuals will most likely not continue. Using software based solutions are only temporary, and cause tremendous collateral damage to a population and performance.

Prosecution can occur in local jurisdictions.

O-mie 02-23-2008 04:17 PM

In all the games I've played that have used gameguard though, I've never had any problems because of it. `-`

+Tequila+ 02-23-2008 04:25 PM

Yea X-Trap is a big problem. Punkbuster wont really solve the problems you get with MMos like Fiesta and Holic. I'd rather have to deal with X-Trap then people being able to lvl in seconds by packet editing* which is really very simple stuff Which was done to Fiesta in Cb1 if I remember correctly*. The same thing was done with Holic TILL X-Trap was added. Anti-Hack will never stop botters because most of these pleasebuygoldheresowecankeylogyou sites are from foriegn versions of this game and already know how to bypass everything. But script kiddies speed hacking and stuff it will stop.

You also have to understand Outspark gets the patches and stuff from the Korean Devs they have very little choice in what actually makes it into Fiesta. They maybe able to make minor changes but big changes like no antihack are a no-no. You may buy a contract from a company but its in the end its still there game and if you dont abide by their rules they will yank it. Every version of Fiesta uses XTrap as far I know. B.K , KRFiesta and GnGFiesta *which if it doesnt will be getting it soon*. Whereas you have a point Angellic about Epic unfortunately most Asian companies dont really think like that because they dont really deal with the masses of cheaters.

Yosei 02-23-2008 04:39 PM

Thats what I keep trying to explain to people. Down to it.. its not Outspark thats doing it. All they can do is say "Um... the western players don't really like this program and a lot of them can't sign on.. we need something different"
Compared to BK, Outspark listens to its players more. With BK, if you're banned, thats it, end of discussion. They added X-trap and its apparently there to stay. I'm sure it effects its players just the same.

So yeah, try to get some perspective before complaining.

MaxOff 02-23-2008 05:38 PM

XTrap cant prevent package editing. In fact i have a tool that logs packets, so i can log the chat(i really hate to forget what people told me, so i log it). And i didnt had to change anything after XTrap was running.

Also a script kiddy wont be able to log the packets. Because the client site obfuscated.

XTrap is also useless against tools like the CheatEngine.

In fact the only think it will help against are the public bots, who are using AutoEdit etc...

But hey at least they are trying.

Zodiac 02-23-2008 05:44 PM

Yes they are trying, and I appreciate that, Even though im not able to play long as they require administrative rights but im ok with it for now cause I know that there going to try to fix it "Hopefully" xD but im going to wait it out and see what turns up


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