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Loveless 12-27-2007 06:12 AM

Fear skill... but you don't get that until... how many levels later? Majority of the players are not going to get past 40.

Fr0Z3nWind 12-27-2007 07:29 AM

loveless, err..... actually archers still get party till 40+
once ur in the 50+, u end up in lvl 50~60 parties in which mage have their fear skill oredi, u have your aoe poison
people would prefer to kill fast and aoe monster for high exp gains
at that point of time, archers dont get to party much unless in guild/friends or tag with lvl 40+ that's what i found out
Although mage sounds so superior now, i'm sticking to my archer
forever not having regrets =)

Loveless 12-27-2007 08:45 AM

You misunderstood me. I'm saying that a majority quit before reaching 40-50 or are slow levelers. Kids usually play about 1-2 hours a day depending so most do not have Fear or Nature's Mist to count on.

In AEW I always see at least one Archer in a party. I used to be depended on as a tanker there too... O.o

Enraya 12-27-2007 11:19 AM

Good for archers with big jobs! xDDD
Well, yeah, I only play around 2 hours a day on weekdays. >_____<
And a lot of people quit before reaching lvl 40 D= well, at least in most MMOs.
And I think that, well, grinding really isn't always that bad with an archer xD Maybe I'm wrong about AoEing, but I kill fast enough o__O then again, I'm not very high leveled, so I'm probably wrong.
Do parties not accept archers because of their class? For now, I'm being accepted. I haven't met a situation yet where someone goes "oh, it's an archer. No need for those, don't invite her".

Fr0Z3nWind 12-27-2007 12:25 PM

for u, u didnt
for me i did ><
in the mid 40s it isnt too hard anyway
grind in cp
grind grind grind grind until cows go home ><

Loveless 12-27-2007 04:39 PM

I think in most cases people do not want more than one Archer in their party. But the other time when I went for TK we had a tank, a cleric, and three archers. :P I guess the bad thing about having a lot of Archers is that they draw aggro way too easily from all the DoT damage they give out.

alexbre 12-27-2007 10:17 PM

mages pwn archers for parties, but on 1 v 1 archer will win if it can DoT, or if the mana burn doesnt take enough mana

Blackbird 12-27-2007 10:48 PM

Well I'm a female mage even I voted for Mage, anyway the reason I prefer mage is doing a great dmg and making the aoe more interesting.

Fr0Z3nWind 12-28-2007 03:17 AM

actually i think 1 archer is enough unless there's no mage out there willing to come tag along in your party,
those people out there doesnt know poison,bleed and disease does not stack with other archers nor do they time it right (meaning to use it after the 2nd archer's poison ended)

Senario 1
Archer 1 aoe poisons (40 dmg ps), then Archer 2 aoe poisons (40 dmg ps)
Archer 2 aoe poisons does not reset the timing of those poisoned monster of Archer 1


Senario 2
Archer 1 aoe poisons (40 dmg ps), then Archer 2 aoe poisons (48 dmg ps)
Archer 1 aoe poisons get over written by Archer 2, y did he use it anyway ><
(higher dmg over writes lower dmg, lower dmg does not over write higher dmg)

Senario 3
Archer 1 (40dmg ps) shoots aoe poison, then Archer 2 (40dmg ps) waits 15~19 seconds, that's what i do, then shoots aoe poison
Archer 2 overwrites all the monster's poisoned timer

This is tested in aoe trumpies ><

Loveless 12-28-2007 05:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by alexbre (Post 61444)
mages pwn archers for parties, but on 1 v 1 archer will win if it can DoT, or if the mana burn doesnt take enough mana

Well yes, in PvP situations Archers will have a upper hand from the HP difference. I've just done a PvP with a mage couple levels higher and I killed within 3 shots of my skills.

Anyway! I believe it's good to have at least one Archer in any party. You can't go wrong with the DoT damage. It's always nice to have constant damage every second because you're obviously not going to have Nova Frost or Nature's Mist until later.

In regards to timings. You'll just have to be the smarter Archer in that party. If you see that the other Archer is dishing out the DoTs then just shoot out what missed. He/she will use up their SP and you'll save, simple as that.


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