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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 244395)

I wasn't trying to say that a human life is worth more than an animal life. I was wondering why you think it is acceptable to end the life of a living being, when in fact it is the same action you abhor in the first place. At what point does ending the life of a living being become acceptable and just?

This is exactly why I don't understand why death penalty is deserved for those boys.

Hates the act killing, but wants these boys killed?
It gives me a mixed message.

The teens did commit the gruesome crime of killing the poor puppy.
But do you think killing the teens would make the puppy more or less alive?

I do think they may deserve something more than 10 years of prison, but I don't think they deserve to be killed.

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Originally Posted by IcED (Post 244661)

+1

My first rational act would be "they deserve to die" but on my second thought, I realise they're still young and can still be reformed. Everyone deserves a second chance.

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Originally Posted by IcED (Post 244661)

Hmm I see your point, But that would also apply to:
Do you think giving the Teens 10 years in prison would make the puppy more or less alive ?

I do see your point though, And this si why people vote on subjects like this before they're put into action because many have their own opinions

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Originally Posted by lamchopz (Post 244779)

+1

My first rational act would be "they deserve to die" but on my second thought, I realise they're still young and can still be reformed. Everyone deserves a second chance.

I do see your point, and I think after a while I too am agreeing with you.

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Originally Posted by Hraesvelg (Post 244492)

Well, at least you're honest in your irrationality.

If I were absolutely positive that our system could determine guilt or innocence with 100% accuracy, I might support a death penalty. As it stands now, I can in no way support it. I would rather a guilty person go free than execute an innocent person. I find that idea completely abhorrent.

http://www.innocenceproject.org/

So lemme get this straight, you'd rather a Guilty person go free and maybe kill 5~10 people than one or two innocents be killed in the process ?
I do see what you mean though. I'm trying not to start a flame war here

I think now that it's been a few days and I've calmed down they shouldn't get the death penalty, but alot more than 10 years

The idea of a government killing an innocent for any reason is completely reprehensible. Like I said, if a system were in place that would be 100% accurate, I might consider the idea of a death penalty. However, the system is being run by human beings who are not 100% accuracte. It can't be.

And yes, I would rather a guilty person be free rather than an innocent person killed. There should be no collateral damage in the law.

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Originally Posted by BlackDragonEX (Post 244916)

The difference in that statement is that a guilty person isn't necessarily going to kill 5-10 more people. But there is no doubt in what is going to happen when you subject an innocent person to the death penalty.

T_______________T
all i can say for the poor puppy.

*_______________________* EVILLLL PEOPLEEEEEE
all i can say for those guys.

;_; poor puppy!!!!!!!

Hmm sorry to go off topic... but if u guys feel for the puppy...

how about this guy that raped a 18 & 19 year old couple (both of them), and they fell from the balcony trying to escape... the girl died at the scene and the guy is in critical condition... and most likely paralised...

http://www.smh.com.au/news/national/...956136465.html

I'm sooo bothered by this story.. firstly its in Sydney, with people thats relatively close to my age.. and... just the memory that the guy has to live with when he recovers..

D: such depressing stories..

;___; poor couple!!!

They were both found naked below the balcony...

I cant get over how crude some human being can be......... the offender is only 26... he's only 2 yrs older than me...

Man... mum told me the story but I didn't read it until now. I wonder where the couple lived?