for such reason i have a simple rule set:

-afking without reason : kick after 5min, spot saved for 30min
-afking with reason : kick after 10min, spot saved until he is back.
-logging out without reason : spot saved 30min
-loggin off, but said he comes back: spot saved until back (max 2hs)

Thats a typical kid of our times. Or in short a kid tyrant.
So must teach that little tyrant that it cant tyrannize u.

If she would do that to me, i would say i wont help her under that conditions. I love to help people, but i wont help because someone demands it!
Also when she demands to be lvled, tell her no. First nicely, and the more she insist the more u make it clear. Once i had to tell a kid over 20times a clear no, before he realised that nagging wont change me decision.


p.s: all i wrote hear my sound hard. But there are extrem cases. And in most cases being more nice would be better.

I don't know how anyone could ASK for those things...I mean...if someone offers me to plvl, I'd gladly accept it, since it's getting harder to get fast exp...but it could never come to my mind to ASK for plvl...I guess the people who do that are just...selfish, immature....or something...:/ And it's so hard to reject...I understand you

Reading this thread again, I tried to cut out many things you said, but I seem to be not able to. So yeah...sorry for the gigantic quote, but I FEEL how you feel. When I was at my low level, I did the same. I didn't have any high-level friends - mostly lower for some reason :/ - I partied up with the people of similar levels, did quests, made friends etc etc. But from the time I became +lvl30, there were piles of people asking for plvl. And yeah, why not ask in full sentences?! "plvl plz" "plvl plzzzz" "PLZZZZ" <---super annoying. I mean, I have a limit too. I help to a certain extent that they don't just ADD me to friends (when all I did with them was just giving him exp, they would hardly even reply when questions were asked, or were complimented), and if they didn't keep on sending literally thousands of repetitive party invites - GEEZ!! Is it seriously that hard to level up by yourself? Enjoy the game, wtf is the point of just levelling up?!?!

Yeah...I guess the 'friends' who constantly ask for 'plvl' are not very good ones. In my life, I've tried so hard not to make any generalizations, but here, I must. >:( If they really were friends, and not "friends", they would think for you, and not want to bother you or put much burden on your back, and not ask for things that they wouldn't want to be doing if they were asked the same. = selfish.

Happened to be twice today, two of my supposedly "friends" (whom I've added after a few talks :/ since I didn't feel like being rejective), kept on constantly sending me party invites, and asking "plvl me plz" ughh!!! HELLOO--

oh man...i get tonss-- its worse with my cleric-- i get spammed over and over from the same players asking for pt and plvl'ing...it makes me not want to play the game.

To be honest, I plvled all the way from 12-25. But I wasn't leeching AT ALL. When the person plvled me, I was always helpful... I healed them well, gave them scrolls, etc. ^^

The two things that seems kinda strange to me are the following:

1. People complain when others say "Pty Pls" instead of "Party Please". It's not that their lazy. In most other games I've played, saying the shortened form is perfectly acceptable. This is the first game where people have had problem with this and I don't see what all the fuss is about. I'm sure when you talk on msn you use "cuz" instead of "cause" and the obvious "lol" instead of "laugh out loud". The abbreviations are just for convenience and I personally don't think they mean any disrespect. I guess the community here really hates abbreviations, but I doubt many new players know that. At least let them know first.

2. While I don't like the fact that some players demand you level them, once again in some other games I've played, plvling actually had some benefits. For one, if you plvled a lower level character, you would get an exp boost and a small point reward (specific to the game). I don't see any benefit in this game toward plvling, but it wouldn't hurt to explain to them once that there is absolutely no benefit of you leveling them and that you need to exp yourself. If they continue to be stubborn about it, then start yelling ^^

Oh well i response to the person above me I'd have to say some of us just prefer seeing the real words instead of "Plz."

I'd have to say I do because I prefer to spell correctly if I don't know the person. :urweird: It's an automatic trigger so I can make sure they get my smart side before my stupid side. (Theres alot of it :goaway: )

And also, you're right, should start yelling when they don't leave but I just say something along the lines "If you can handle FoS then come with me." then when they say they don't know I ride away on my dragon and duo there with Machtig or Sparkl3y. :nahnah:

I say "pt plz" and I understand it that some people. If you just warped to MD and other people are leaving you behind... there's no time to properly type it out.

But with all other things being mostly equal and given a choice between someone who says "pt plz" and "party please," I would must rather take the latter one. =l

Touche. D:

Power leveling = leeching. Yes, they're both the same thing. When you power level someone you shouldn't expect them to do anything. They're just there to leech your experience and gain levels while you do all the hard work and waste your stones, potions, money, etc. I don't do power leveling and I certainly do not receive it. Yes, I have tried before but i've never gotten a reliable person to help me out, so what meager experience I did gain was easily demolished by my numerous deaths.

The only times I make an exception is if it's a friend of mine who I know and isn't going to just take advantage of me or if it's a cleric who can heal and keep me alive. If they fail to do that, I just boot them from the party and move on. However, I would HAPPILY make an exception to anyone who can use the same spelling and grammar as me and request it in a manner that is neither "noobish" or demanding.

Yeah, I get crap like "pt plz" or "plvl mi plz" all the time and I swear, if I could, i'd punch them in their throats for being so annoying. I mean really, it isn't that hard to level yourself up until like...level 40 and even then, you should just suck it up and do it anyways. There are plenty of quests that you can do for a lot of experience and they actually fixed the repeat quests so now they're worth doing. Oh and this game doesn't have anything else to offer other than grinding and questing...so...yeah.

I'll p lvl a friends alt. Only if they do the same for me. Only
other exception would be if Falco started playing again id p lvl him forsure xD

Oh kind dear FabledWaltz, will you please waste all your time to powerlevel me for a small bit of time. It would be most appreciated.

/Sarcasm.

I remember back when you could powerlevel someone much easier I used to be in uruga on my cleric all the time. Clerics could easily level then! Other than that other classes can't give much to the party so I don't approve, solo ftw!

If they typed it out just like that, I would power level them in a heartbeat. Trust me, after seeing people "typ liek diz" all the time, something like that is a godsend.

lol

I just discovered what plvl meant recently. (yes, yes, I'm new)

Did it once and it felt good but I got annoyed because my lvl was too low to lay even a hit. =.=

So yea, I don't think I really asked for a plvl (I prefer sky watching :lol: ). Occasionally I asked my guild to help me out with a couple of hard quests because the people in my regular party weren't on. They killed everything so fast that I didn't have time to pick up items o_O . Gotta love my guild. lol

Bottom line is that I like being my regular party because we can at least fight together and... run together. That's part of the fun, I guess. Now I'm getting bored since the cleric has lvl so fast and the archer is playing a fighter, yet to reach my lvl, so we haven't been really playing together any more. I'll see how it goes. =]

'av a nice day.

^^

I'm somewhat ashamed to say that I do plvl, but it's with a friend who hates to train alone. We've worked out a kind of agreement... I'm in the 2x lvls and she plvls me for: my heals while she's plvling me and stones (because she's the guild's main enhancement artist)

hmm..seeming to me Alee u still in a bad mood and now cba to help people well lol fine that dont bother me anymore you dont know what kind of person i am anymore im different i came back to teva to see you. so ya lol if u really wanna chat my ingame name is XIVoemgaVIX and dont think he gonna keep sayin i want plvl i want plvl ive been over that i know ud want it off others around ur lvl too lvl 70 + ^^ :P well cya in-game alee

i read blooddrops message and so yeah i do lookout for u alee like someother people they dont think they should help because they depending on others 10+ lvls higher depend on em do it i do care bout u still alee :P i wouldnt forget you...even tho why should i because u was my friend on teva there aint a point in going to any other servers now all i wanna do is be with my friends so yeah it kinda boring be alone missing out all ur friends and u ask em to help be with u but they say no ignore u and leave eventually not be friends and then carry on with what they doing id thought it be nice to go and do somethin other tho seeming tho as u didnt wanna be my friend i was that constant person etc.. and now i feel bad / humiliated by this question people like me i aint selfish people need help at one time and ive been helped before but that was since i was with Saim my friend but she dont remember me now i just wish to be back again and right have some fun and never to forget my friends is all i care i tried speaking to Tommy2k7 today man he was online but afking u know alee sometimes u need to know how it feels for others when they get commented on stuff like this id rather not be ur friend or know u but id chat to you in-game unless that if u aint gonna be moody and say what u want?!?! and that i know u said it once :P and really u have upset me:cries:

Holy run-on sentence, Batman!

On topic: plvl bad.

I've never understood the desire to be plvl'ed or to plvl another. I've been playing online rpgs since the early 90's (MUDs) and have dealt with the concept the entire time. I particularly love it when a character I've never seen before asks me to plvl them, I say, 'No, get your exp the same way I did, by killing stuff', and I get called a jerk or some non-family-friendly equivalent. It's even better when the game has extensive player-killing...
"Wait a minute. You want me to make you stronger so I will have a harder time killing you in the furture?" Morons. What's the fun in not earning your char? What's the fun in being handed a capped level char with 100 gems and every possible awesome weapon for your class? What is left for you to do with that char? If you want an uber char that bad, just close your eyes and pretend. Tell the people on Teva that you have this totally awesome char on Epith, but the network won't let you connect to that server anymore.

I decided to stop questing. So these days, I just log in and chat with my guild and friends and/or help a few players of lower lvls. Sometimes my guildies (of considerably higher lvl) ask me to come along with them. It's technically plvling but the truth is I just want to hang out with them because it's fun. Hopefully I can regain the motivation to quest/grind again.

I was promised some killer weapons at lvl 50 and 60.

xD

It's just how noobs are. they think that just because you're they're friend you'll be happy to plvl them at anytime. I think it's because they see you in shiny armor and they wanna get that armor as soon as possible so they ask for plvl

@Frysta - You hit everything ON THE SPOT! HHAHA i was nodding nodding nodding as I read your post...

what's the point of having a character that you didnt work for yourself...

yeah u own in pvp w/e... but u'd also be known as the "plvled guy"... or a new catagory of them "the leechers" that didnt do anything and earnt exp...

But i guess there's a lot of impatient people out there...

Ugh.

Someone partied me today in SEG and asked me to help him level.

He was level 49. I am level 53.

Level. Forty. Nine.

And a mage.

Heck. He probably killed faster than I did... >.>

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Poor Alee :(

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