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Rinstar 02-28-2008 07:28 AM

What about if you havent completed the quest yet. I have 140 nix down 10 togo, are they going to take that from me too. I dont want to do 150 more the first 140 took long enuff

Ivramire 02-28-2008 07:30 AM

There will be no more BR. They are removing it and putting it back later, anyone who gained xp from the quest will have it removed.

nickstack 02-28-2008 07:31 AM

ok this is unesisary down time now, i want 2 play darnit its 2:30 in the morning and it dont want to sleep yet!!! good thing i have a pack of cigs or id be going crazy tv sucks!


~btw~
Connections to servers has failed.

[ok]

as bender would put it, bite my shinny metal ass!

Rinstar 02-28-2008 07:33 AM

i hear ya there im waiting and checking and waiting and checking, come on we peps who have no life do have a life lol

Solarious 02-28-2008 08:12 AM

Quote:

Attention Players,

Maintenance will be delayed 2 hours. Will return service at 3am (pst).

We recognize the imbalance that the next patch may cause and we want to take every precaution possible to make sure all is fair.

Burning Rock will be closed (This was not intended to be open at this time)

If you did not complete a Burning Rock quest, you are not affected.

If you completed a Burning Rock quest, below is how you are affected:
- Exp acquired while "grinding" in Burning Rock will NOT be removed
- Newly acquired Skills will not be saved if skill is above your level
- Stats will not save if your level is lower than the stats accumalated exceeds the level allowed
- Money spent on skills will be refunded.
- Armor/Weapons bought that are equipped will remain equipped and usable until un-equipped. Once un-equipped, you will be required to meet the level requirement.

We apologize for the inconvenience and lengthy maintenance but it is required in order to "make things right". As usual, we thank you for your continute patience.

Thank you,
-Outspark Staff


They are just making more work for themselves, especially since they are going to remove skills. Then they need to refund EACH AND EVERY person who leveled and spent money on skills.. Hrmmm I think thats going to SUPER time consuming for them...

Blaaaaaaaah 02-28-2008 08:15 AM

Okay, as long as I REALLY get my money back from the skills, I don't mind. The thing is, I had bought my level 53 skill on accident a few days ago. Now, will they refund it if I used had bought it before burning rock was opened? I mean, I don't think they'll go that far back? Because if they don't, I will be so sad. I still have 3 skills to buy and they're all roughly 25-26 silvers each, and me only have 19 silvers.

=[[[[

Ivramire 02-28-2008 08:27 AM

You will keep the skill if you have already used the scroll.

Blaaaaaaaah 02-28-2008 08:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 98881)
You will keep the skill if you have already used the scroll.

Quote:

- Newly acquired Skills will not be saved if skill is above your level
Doesn't that mean it won't save? =/ -confused- :confused:

Ivramire 02-28-2008 08:32 AM

never mind, they changed stuff on the officials Here's the updated:-

- Newly acquired Skills will not be saved if skill is above your level
- Stats will not save if your level is lower than the stats accumalated exceeds the level allowed
- Money spent on skills will be refunded

Blaaaaaaaah 02-28-2008 08:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by lvramire (Post 98883)
never mind, they changed stuff on the officials Here's the updated:-

- Newly acquired Skills will not be saved if skill is above your level
- Stats will not save if your level is lower than the stats accumalated exceeds the level allowed
- Money spent on skills will be refunded

LOL You must have missed Solarious's post above. - points up -

Ivramire 02-28-2008 08:38 AM

Rofl, yeah. Just checking things before going to bed :3

Sero 02-28-2008 08:39 AM

Screw this, now they're gonna take it all away??? I spent time and effort for that quest, and it's they're fault they opened BR and had that quest on... Pisses me off so much GRRRRRRR >_<

Solarious 02-28-2008 08:44 AM

Yeah nubsauce lol jk :P

Blaaaaaaaah 02-28-2008 08:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SerodinSilver (Post 98887)
Screw this, now they're gonna take it all away??? I spent time and effort for that quest, and it's they're fault they opened BR and had that quest on... Pisses me off so much GRRRRRRR >_<

Aw, but they're not gonna take the exp you got when you grinded away. It's only the quest rewards. And the exp there wasn't so bad (um maybe that could be because I was with some higher levels :eek:) but yeah. D:

Sero 02-28-2008 09:05 AM

Yeahsure, call me a nubsauce just cause you're around 20 lvls higher than me ^^

And yeah... 948 exp per Fire Spirit Kill, so all I got left is around 57k exp... Oh well, still sucks thou'

O-mie 02-28-2008 09:26 AM

That's freaking lame. That quest was floating around A GOOD LONG TIME before they opened BR. =| They shouldn't take it away from people who did it.

Sero 02-28-2008 09:29 AM

Yeah, such a freakin' waste...
I wish I spent all the 45s I got last night >_>

O-mie 02-28-2008 09:35 AM

They should just leave the people who did it as is. I mean, how is it NOT unbalanced to let say, a person who gained 3x levels regain those levels in the higher armor while others have to use the lower armor, and use the higher skills as well? In my opinion that's even more unbalanced than just letting them keep the damn quest rewards.

AngellicDiety 02-28-2008 09:44 AM

In my opinion, outspark made the stupidest move in the Information technology world.

The accounts that are affected are localized to those who are online. There are thousands of accounts each server. You need to go through each one manually. You need a complex algorithm to edit it automatically through a program.

Lets just say, I dont think outspark quite has the ability to do such a thing properly. We will probably see tons of things missing. In fact, there is a good chance the entire system will be corrupted.


Whilst I agree that some of the powerelevelled low-levels should be reset, I dont think its fair for it to happen at the cost of causing problems for tons of other people.

On a side note: Are the servers still down?

Blaaaaaaaah 02-28-2008 09:46 AM

Yes it's still down. It's been delayed, and they said it should be up by 3am PST.

Sero 02-28-2008 09:47 AM

F*ckin' straight, from lvl 1 to lvl 30+ or whatever, so what??? It's their life, not ours...

O-mie 02-28-2008 09:55 AM

I honestly think, without being pissy because I did the quest - they should just remove the quest and leave it as that. Trying to rollback, in the past, has mde them error so much, so this is going to be a disaster.

Enraya 02-28-2008 10:07 AM

.____. BR is gone ...

Well, I don't have much to say.

But really, I think taking away the quests is enough. Rolling back only causes more trouble ... >____>"
For those that went from like lvl 1 to lvl 3x, then they missed out on a LOT, including potential friends. Although it caused a pretty big imbalance, especially for lower levels to gain like 10 levels at a time, I don't think they should rollback. What's the point? People have spent time on it and silver on it. Rolling it back would only cause more trouble and discontent.

Hessah 02-28-2008 10:10 AM

yeah they made a "nice" patch and this is probably gonan throw things out of wack... BUT! maybe outspark will surprise us! as they did with the last patch...

will hv to wait and see

O-mie 02-28-2008 10:13 AM

How are a handful of people going from 1-3x unbalanced? My cleric went from level 1-30 in a day. Its called getting a powerlevel. She got to 40 leveling in a week with Lilian's fighter.

Obviously these people had to have some high level friends to get them there and get the kills, so in the end, its just a quick and easy powerlevel. Sorry but an influx of level 30-40's isn't going to make the game "unbalanced".

*edit*

@hessah
They surprised us alright, and any good thing they did they just revoked entirely LOL.

Sero 02-28-2008 10:17 AM

What now, they delayed us all for 1 more hour... GRRRRRRRRRRRRR >_<

-Leona- 02-28-2008 10:35 AM

Realy guys do u honestly believe they are closing br because of that level 79 quest :/.


REMOVE THE QUEST = end of story
Level Lock the gate = end of story

There are many ways they can solve the super level 1-38 of low levels without locking BR so yeah their reason for closing br is bs.

Enraya 02-28-2008 10:40 AM

@ Omie

Lots of the higher levels are saying that because of powerlevels from 1-30, Uruga is going to be flooded with "noobs" that don't know how to play their own character because they got plvled. I've heard some people say that it makes the game unbalanced because the high levellers had to work their way up while some people get plvled up.

I don't have anything against plvls if you've got a friend willing to plvl you because you started over or it's your alt. And it's not me complaining. It's the higher levels -points-

@ Hessah

I hope they do surprise us. That was one good patch yesterday ._______.

EDIT //

@ StarLeona

I also think all they had to do was just remove the quest .__. No rollbacks, just simply closing the quest.
BR brought new leveling places for people, which should make Uruga/FoS/AEW places less crowded. So in my opinion opening BR sounded pretty good @__@

Sero 02-28-2008 10:44 AM

Eh, I got a better suggestion for them... Lock BR up again, yeah sure, or whatever the hell they want, it's just so damn wrong to take what we earned from us, BS BS BS >_<

Lady-Loki 02-28-2008 11:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 98909)
I honestly think, without being pissy because I did the quest - they should just remove the quest and leave it as that. Trying to rollback, in the past, has mde them error so much, so this is going to be a disaster.

I agree ^

Lock the gate and leave exp and levels - a lot easier to implement.

!. They should have fixed Curly giving the quest first

2. They should not have opened the Map "in error"

Their two mistakes does not equate to one making one right by taking from us what they are at fault for us having access to!

Two wrongs does not make one right (not how that phase is generally used - but applies nonetheless.)

O-mie 02-28-2008 11:31 AM

Yeah. A few levels and 45 silver don't make the game unbalanced, lol.

AngellicDiety 02-28-2008 11:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngellicDiety (Post 98443)
Instead of trusting everything from OnsOnsoft, they should test it first. See if it works. Quality Assurance. If it doesn't, then they could yell at OnsOnsoft before it makes it out to us. Before we feel the effects. Before we begin yelling at outspark.

Its rather simple, and most of the people defending outspark in this thread simply dont get it. Outspark has the ability, and resources, to assure that faulty patches never make it into our system. You guys can say that outspark simply gets the patches. Yes thats true, but its not like it has to be applied.

All it takes is a 1 day test of all the maps, all the character skills by an employee, to find simple mistakes like a bug with a skill, or a gate that shouldn't be there, or a decreased drop rate.


I've said it before. Outspark simply doesn't learn.

Had they tested this patch, they would've seen that BR was embedded.

But that thought never occured to them.

Outspark needs to take a little more responsibility.

O-mie 02-28-2008 12:18 PM

from their frequent and horrid delays in maintainence I almost wonder if they even use a test server >_>..doesn't seem like it most of the time.

Enraya 02-28-2008 12:22 PM

Even though this is still beta ...

sometimes they need to be reminded we're not test subjects >__>

That last patch REALLY impressed me though.
They got a load done in a single patch ... o-o
Including the relog bug, which a ton of people have been complaining about. A few other bugs were fixed, some of which I didn't notice which was a good thumbs up on their part =)

secbro20 02-28-2008 12:24 PM

They really gotta learn to test their patches before release. How can you release a map you didn't intend to release? How stupid can you be?

Sero 02-28-2008 12:25 PM

...Either way I'm not liking the rollback:p

secbro20 02-28-2008 12:29 PM

I understand why this is happening. That quest would basically make the starting lvl of the game 40, which would mean that people would start LEARNING the way to play at 40, which by then, you should know how to play your class pretty well. But to punish those who are already in there 40s 50s 60s or 70s is wrong. Those people do know how to play and should have been allowed to keep there rewards.

Ivramire 02-28-2008 03:51 PM

I think it was mentioned somewhere on the officials, that they didn't know that BR was there when they implemented it because it wasn't in the patch notes sent to them from Korea.

By the time they saw it, they had to wait until a decent time for people in Korea to get up and all. Then they sent over the patch.

That's a one-sided point of view of course and we all know how lopsided those can be.

O-mie 02-28-2008 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by secbro17 (Post 99006)
I understand why this is happening. That quest would basically make the starting lvl of the game 40, which would mean that people would start LEARNING the way to play at 40, which by then, you should know how to play your class pretty well. But to punish those who are already in there 40s 50s 60s or 70s is wrong. Those people do know how to play and should have been allowed to keep there rewards.

Rofl that's not true. You would have to have a base of high level friends to help you complete said quest, and that generally means you have to have been playing for some time to be able to have these high level friends. A level one who has never played fiesta is not likely to wander into uruga, get that quest and find their way into BR (alive) and compete the quest n their own.

toolrocket 02-28-2008 04:14 PM

You dont need high level friends. A high level guild could just make tons of alts, and get them the quest 1 by 1.


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