Has anyone tried starting a new char and then *attempting* enchantment and writing down the pattern of where the star lands from the beginning, then repeating with another char? Could it be that there *is* a pattern but that it starts when you first start enchanting? Maybe the pattern is just sooo long that by the time everyone here is trying everyone else's patterns they are just lost in where they should be in said pattern. *did that make sense?* If that were the case then you should be able to write it down from the get go, 9 times (not to expensive if you do stone production and are buying lvl1 weaps). And if it worked then you should be able to get it right with a lvl1 char and just create a new char every time you wanted a new enchanted char. I'm sure no one has tried that ... right ... yeah right. I'll be selling lix apoline right in front of the Roumen Smitty. hehhe :)

That was a Serious thought though.

But without my trying *Yet*, I do think its Purely Random and it's the closest thing Outspark could have created to mimic Crack. There are stone dealers on every corner and How many times do you hear "Help!!! I have destroyed my weapon and can't afford a new one!!!!" or "Can I have some money to buy a new Weapon!!!111 mine ran out of gas a mile down the road". O_o

i think the enchament is purely random.

The think of interest, i have noticed is that the position the star lands on is always relative to the position u place your stone on. So every theory about placing the stones at the right position cant be true.

The weakness i ever heard of was about an exploit in the closed beta, that made it possible to prevent the item from breaking/downgrading while enchanting. But i didn't played in the closed beta, and the exploit was apparently fixed in open beta , or never existed all together.

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On +1 its always the 3rd one for me:P everytime

There is no pattern.

No square is luckier than another.

Getting to +1 is so easy... It must have a 90% success rate.


@MaxOff: Yes, in CB there was an enhancing glitch, and that was oneofthe main reasons that they did a wipe. At least, that's what a few GMs and high-community members said.

I usually put it in same square, only broke one weapon doing it, and enchanced like 5.
1 to +5 the rest to +3
^^ I think its just random, hit or miss

It's pure randomness, and i've broken tons of wepons... :'(

Mmm let's see... my gut feeling is that one could figure out a pattern for the lower lvls (maybe just +1 or something if you're consistent). The earlier post about computer-generated randomness is correct. It's technically not random, but it's "pseudo-random" because an algorithm generates this randomness; however, it's probably really easy to jumble it up completely.

For example, they could have the randomness based on the current time, or how many items your character currently has in his/her inventory - anything and any combination. So it probably becomes so difficult to find a pattern that it can be deemed impossible.

Having said that though, I'll probably play around with low lvl enhancement after reading these posts when I get time to do it ^^.

...I've said it like 3 times now.

You know, we aren't just saying there's no pattern. It's in the game's files. Random numbers generated.

I read all the times you said random ^^. And as a person who's had some (not extensive) coding experience, I'm telling you that there is no "true" random. The random numbers generated are seeded based on some factors which are unknown to me.

While you're correct in that given the current coding languages there is no way of writing/using a true random number algorithm, Fiesta (and any other videogames) is probably using a library PNRG, which generates enough randomness (patterns will emerge after loops in the tens of thousands).

i tryed the option 2...
got +7 hammer n +6 shield, tryed hammer to +8 and failed...so the end of it is wrong. :/

lol.
Now i actually have some coding experience, and i also read something about how such random number generators work. So yes, they take a seed, but most of the time the devs does not change the seed from its default one, because the default one is good enough(encryption is different matter). For every following number the last number generated is the see, thus making any prediction nearly impossible. Unless u know the seed and the times of random numbers generated, and we definitely don't know the last, because is very unlikely that they maintain a random seed for every session.

There is also the wrong though about the slots. They are only a diversion: The slots are completely unimportant. The server only decides if the item will be enchanted, downgraded, broken or nothing happens at all. The slots are made up according to that.

In other words: Don't ask where to put your stones, but when to start enchanting. The question cant be really solved though, so just accept the fact: enchanting is ruled by a pseudo random number generator.

with the recent PC games devs often use the computer's realtime clock as the seed, which is very likely Fiesta's seed as well, which would give it more than enough "randomness" lol

Pattern or not, +1 to +3 is easy as people said... What about lvl 2 & 3 items? --> Harder to enhance?

yes. way harder. :-/

I get to +6....

then BOOM!

I'm too scared for the item to break O.o

i thought getting to +3 was like foolproof (and it pretty much is for level one items) so i got my level 2 boots, stuck em in and *poof* destroyed first go to get +1!!!!

level 2 items are waaaaay harder to enhance

For some reason...it usually suceeds if I only try once a day at 12o clock position...at 12am lol xD so far I've got my lvl 70 staff to +5 using only 1pack of red/blue (darn they are expensive). O,OV But that's only me..dunno bout u guys :p

Yep, pure random. No denying it.

I always go with bottom square for me. Hit or miss... rarely break or decrease with bottom square.

But I've vowed not to enhance anymore. Breaks too many times (and you don't really need enhanced weapons / armor till lv. 50 anyway)

Is it me or am i just VERY UNLUCKY enhancing weapons? I broke like 10+ Weapons trying to get +7 and when i try to get my shield up i easly get it till +8 >.<

lmao :D that's funny

Happens by chance. Everyone gets their time~

I tried the pattern 1 and got my hammer to +3, maybe i will try to get it to +6 tomorrow, since i got a spare mace xD

there are no patterns.

i even checked it.

When u try to enchant the client sends the server

• the index to the item
• the index to the stone used
• the indexes to the 3 "eyes"
• money u want to spend(4bit)

the last of the 3eyes and the money are currently always empty, but the server already accept them. But the information, on where u placed the stone is not send to the server

i always use the bottom

Well, there's actually video of someone getting a sword to +8 through a illegal program, though that may have been in CB.

money u want to spend?!?!? for wot?:lost:

-is beginning to feel like a noob again-:blush:

spending money on enchanting is an unused feature. Unless u hack the client in some way, u wont be able to use it. :ninja:

That was in BK I think?

All items up to Tier 3 could be enhanced to +3 with no danger of breaking. Higher + though required increasing amounts of if in-game $ if you wanted to keep your item safe.

At least I think that's how it worked.

will it become available?:lost:

Is that like bribing the smith or something?! :err:

Highly unlikely.


It was nice though, I got +3 everything.

well last few enhancements ive made have failed...
the last 4 tbh..never got past +5..they always broke after failing 4x

but then i remeberd i saw this a few days ago..so i just tryed it and BOTH my weapons got to +6, without failing once!

i think it mite be a hidden enhancement for the gms to use >.<

we have here about 6pages where a dozen or more people tried to prooth that there is no pattern.

And i personally went as far and finding out that there be be pattern.

GMs can spawn any item with commands.


They don't need to sit at the smithy and wait for an item to become +9.


It was just luck and the wheel is just a visual effect to get some people addicted to betting on it.

seem like that worked out quite well, people even start seeing patterns and stuff like that :p

:eep::eep::eep::eep::eep::eep::eep: My Hammer Broke >=( Luckily it only a lv20 hammer and I got spare mace. :sigh:

I dont believe these patterns excist, yet saying this i always use my own pattern every time and haven broken anything yet on epith and only failed like twice.... My pattern is top, bottom, top, top left, bottom right, top for up to +6 but thats all i aim for now :P

After i get another lv40 1H +5 from the Robo KQ Box, i going to try to enchant one of them to '+6' :cutielove:

dang u know what stinks....i got my hammer to +8 and i used 1 more xir and it broke it:sigh::sigh::sigh: