I think this is the one that needs bolding.

I dont know whats going on, and dont really wanna lose Mickey.

Just wanted to tell lvra I was Temp-Banned too. FYI Ive had 2 rules added or changed because of me.

And that was when Zwivix was still in G____G. So please don't think we get any special treatment. I have also received infractions and I'm sure with a few other members.

Lets all... Chillax and behave ^_^"

Hey, if this helps... I've gotten infractions too!! Yup, that's right ;D

And whoever can guess why, will get a gold star and a hug from me :cutielove:

loljk. but seriously. :D

*walks away from thread... ... slowly... ... ...*

*poof*

One was the other was a few months ago.

But I would have to say mods are mostly right, but there are instances where they obviously take one side. That cannot be changed they are human just cause theyre mods doesnt make em emotion-less robots.

Whenever I get an infraction or deleted post I brush it off and move on. Its just a forum no need to get too emotional.

Lol dude lets face it the girl was attention whoring. Theres QUITE a few members who do the samething. I've watched nina's post she's been just as Mikey said trolly as hell and dishonest just to get attention lol. Mikey didnt make any jokes about her...he said HE could make some jokes about her. Hell , I could do somethings that could seriously mess up FF. But just because I have the ability do those things doesnt mean I'm wrong or plan to do anything. Sure if he had of said oh this girl is blaah blaah...then there would have been grounds for his posts to be deleted.

P.S lol I have flamed mikey before just you know lol.

Attention whore:
(Internet, slang) Someone who craves attention and is not above soliciting it via deliberately meaningless or provocative tactics.

@a.l\lightmywhatever I still remember a while back a group of G.G spammed me with -rep because they THOUGHT I was doing something lol. I think I only told one moderator about it and it was either Loveless or Yosei. I also remember another time a group of G_G spammed me with -Rep because lol they didnt like my opinions. I could go back and and list you the names because its not hard to figure out who people are but that would be pointless. So...either you guys think alike or group together on things or..just decided to derep me cause so and so said so xD.

hey, it's lightningmystix :\

V.V kinda depressing thread...

Personally i think that the mods are right alot of the time. I agree with Bla~ahs for most of what she said. Though ive never gotten an infraction, ifi do get one, ill take into consideration of what i did, think about it, and make sure inever do it again.
Im sure that if the mods werent here...
1. The forums would go outa wack with people posting things that shouldnt, and having no one to close the threads or delete things in the thread that may disrupt the discussion.
2. The community would start to suck. Mods are keeping it as good as they can by closing threads and moderating posts. If we didnt have them doing that, wed be screwed.
And uh... cant really think of a #3... >_<;

why does the bs always turn to a GG thing ?

would you give a shit if the samething happened w/o GG somehow always being involved ?

It is plain and simple. If you do not like it here and it bothers you that bad then leave. You do not have to stay on this forum to simply bitch and complain about the jobs that the mods are doing or the favortism you think they are showing. If all you are going to do is bitch about getting infracted or bitch about the mods do this or their group does this, then go the fuck away. Or just simply shut the fuck up. In two words - Grow Up.

You don't like it - go away. Nothing is keeping you here except the fact the you like drama and you like being the center of that drama. Hence why one member in particular only comes back to post when there is drama. If it bothers you that bad then do not come back. Your problem is solved.

Since you stay, then it must not bother you that bad and you simply like to stir shit up because you have no fucking life. Your problem, not ours.

It is simply a forum on the internet. You are nothing on the internet. No matter how hard you try. At the end of the day you are simply words that can be deleted. Or if Entropy decides not to pay for this forum anymore you cease to exist. You are nothing.

For those that do not know and want to jump on the band wagon for the one's bitching. This all started because some potentially insulting comments were made and the mods chose to delete them and give infractions.
I do not care who they were made to, they were rude and unnecessary. Shows how much character some people have. And if you want to associate your problems with this forum in the same classification as this problem then that is up to you. But, I would think that you would want to keep your problems a separate issue than the constant nagging of someone who constantly insults other people to get some actual kicks in his life.

lol there goes another moderator telling people to stfu and go away. Nice!:love:. I thought u were leaving anyways lol. I also love how people love to judge others and their "lives". Lol seriously Spirit your "life" must be no more satisfying then Mikey's since you worked so hard to gain popularity on this site. The get a life flame is so used up and played out. Its kinda embarrasing for someone of your supposed age and maturity level to be using it.

I Have absolutely no social alegiance, im not in your group (most deffinitely) and i post here often, so what would that make me? and you define anyone who disagrees with you as in a certain social group which is TOTALLY unreliable?

Anyway, since i have no social bias, you can believe me when i say what you did was absolutely mean and out of line.

And she's warned you on multiple occasions of double posting, plus you're a veteran of the forum, so you should know better.


You do realize this whole situation is just an attention whoring attempt, correct?

Mikey could've just stopped posting comments and gotten over all this, but he needed to be dramatic. And it's not attention whoring if you're posting a picture of yourself, it's just trying to talk to a group of people who you consider friendly.

My god, I'm so tired of these favoritism/mods being unfair accusations.
If you don't like the decision they made, then talk to them about it in a civil way. They're doing what they think is best. Whether or not the comments in question were meant to be offensive, they could've been interpreted as such, and the mods sought to avoid conflict with it. Accept it and move on.

Christ, this is still going on?

Seems to me like if all the 'omgsensorship' claims were true, certain members would be long gone?

Why do I need attention? Sorry bud hate to break it to you but I get all the attention I need, I don't make a scene on a forum, where I come to escape from rl, to flip the fuck out. Your one of those people that don't belong and you can simply go in that class of others or "rookies" w/e u wanna call it. but as I have said fifty times there is no point in me continuing cause there stubborn views wont change, I just like to put my opinion out, so people who dont think like a fuckin bumble bee can see whatsup.


You obviously missing something in your live if you need to accuse me of trying to create drama, I deal with enough bullshit irl to sit here and listen to some fuckin loser tell me I am the one creating drama.

Your one of the idiots that so blind bud, you do not realize that this issue cannot be approached in the quiet matter, because its happened before. You see there way of dealing with the issue when it is public? delete post hand out there " no no" tickets and tell us to leave the forum. They can't think that maybe what there doing is wrong and that people like me arnt just flaming for the sake of flaming.


Spirit you sound like a god damned broken record, did you not see about my other fifty posts as to why I come here? We don't come here just to listen to your stupid bs stories. People visit for OTHER reasons, and its not your site so you can stfu. Only reason you don't have to listen to my bs is cause your in a place of power and u can tell me what I can and cannot post on this forum. If something doesnt suit a mod its gone, things get a little heated its gone... and stop trying to accuse me of being a fuckin attention whore, why in fuck would I need attention from fuckin people I DO NOT KNOW, and couldnt give a rats ass about? that also live all over the friggen world and I will never meet in my life?


BAM you are insulting me you should recieve an infraction.. but heres the thing YOU WONT. A mod just insulted a member and broke quite a few rules... yet you wont recieve no bs infraction, and if you do, it is now just to prove me wrong. Im very happy with my life I lead a great one, and Im glad I have tons of wonderful irl friends and friends on the net, i got a great family, whats so wrong about that eh? Only time I visit is when I just wanna have some fun or im sitting at home with nothing to do. I really hate people like you, you don't even see that what you guys do is wrong.


LMAO nothing eh? Are you trying to make some friggen social status up for everyone spirit? I guess that means your nothing to eh.

I never mentioned anything about GG.

Have you guys even read Blah's post or do you guys just get off on whatever you're posting?

1. Give me concrete evidence of favoritism. i havent seen one point where it's been used. Please, if im blind, enlighten me. but if not, stand down and stop making false claims.

2. If you dont want drama, dont create it. im sorry, but formulating some mass conspiracy in which you believe everyone is against you is dramatic.

3. Yes, plenty of things are missing from my life, but i fufill it with creative/constructive/ fun things, not flaming.

4. As ralath said, did you read blah's post at all? you havent been banned, so it's obvious no cover up is going on. You just cant go around insulting people. The mods have to prevent bullying.

5. i have 468 posts, im halfway to premmy, i would hardly say im a rookie at this point.

I don't think they do. This thread is just a bunch of repeating the same stuff over and over...it's been said but really, if you don't like how this site is run, no one's stopping you from leaving. And I don't mean that directly towards anyone, I'm just using logic. If it makes you unhappy, why would you stay? Bringing up the same "criticism" over and over obviously isn't helping.

There's favoritism, no matter how slight, no matter where you go. But it's from how people act. Obviously if someone is being mean or rude to other members they're not going to be treated as kindly as someone who isn't.

And the claims of certain groups being favored...honestly, I don't really see it. :\

/incoherent

Because the people that RUN the site are not the only people that use it.
How hard is that for people to get through there friggen thick skulls?

Im insulted, shouldnt get get an infraction?

LOTS of forums, including ones for games that involve little kids
work just fine with people like me posting what I post, and yes they even have mods!

But yeah, I will stop coming to this site, go have your tea parties people.
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^no, you asked for an open discussion including flaming. you called me an idiot, so it wouldnt be wise to be hypocritical. :/

No one, however, is asking you to leave. if you dont like it, however, you're free to go.

thats exactly what we should hear.

yeah you are an idiot, loveless is a stupid bitch nip and goose or whatever if a fat fuckin cow. farewell chumps, ill come and troll once in a while though... enjoy ;)

If you feel the need to leave, fine, but there's no need to continue insulting others and to continue making an ass out of yourself.

Perhaps if you had presented a coherent argument based upon fact intead of a lame one based on drama, we would have been able to have an open debate. but i digress. you made your choice. farewell.

I was wondering that too.

@Mikey: Be treated the way you treat others. I have not infracted you for throwing insults and accusations at me, have I? But wait! We're actually not allowed to do that, because if mods get abused and insulted and talked down on and they proceed to infract members for flaming, they will be accused of power abuse! But hey, I thought you were all asking for us to be "fair".

See? This WHOLE time on FiestaFan, have you received a single infraction because you were flaming us? I highly doubt it. And do you know how many times you have flamed us? Please put two and two together.

Also, you are the only one grouping people here. You grouped Jikanu into a "rookie group" (which I didn't even know existed until you pointed it out) when he clearly does not think is the case. You have been the only one "stereotyping" so far.

And since it seems like many other members disagreed with this favouritism/power abuse existing, please step back and rethink WHY it's happening, and WHY you (not just you Mikey, but Tequila) are thinking like that.

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@The "shut up" thing: You went to call other people idiots. Unless.. you want another infraction. If we let you go for calling Jikanu an idiot, then we let lightning go for telling you to shut up. Be treated the way you treat people. Pretty much what you get in a community.

And I'm sorry FiestaFan does not satisfy your needs. But it appears you don't have a solution for it. I'm not encouraging you to leave or stay, but even you can't come up with proper resolutions (rather than just "stop the favouritisim? stop abusing your powers?" because you cannot even explain your own view), then I would suggest you not to complain.

Can't expect us to do something that you see fit, when you cannot even come up with a solution, since I assume you believe that you are "right" and that you know "the real deal", and you are better than us (the mods).

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Have a nice day. :)


Edit: To clear things up in case some people want to jump at this chance to say "ZOMG YOU BANNED HIM FOR NOT AGREEING!! POWER ABUSEE!!", his ban resulted from three active infractions. Which I'm sure Mikey knows in regards to his last post on here.

Cheers!

oh please , you wont be missed .

Mikey, you have had more than enough warnings, I don't know how long we have to beat the rules into your head. We aren't asking or telling you to think like we do, but when you are here, you have to abide to the rules that we have written. When it comes down to it, the mods run the forum, to maintain the peace, and make it a safe place for everyone, or at least as many people as we can manage. You've had many things removed in the past, images, videos, posts, etc. And why do we remove them? Although many of the things you post are funny, they tend to not be general public-friendly, or they are insulting or flame-baiting (yes, we will remove flame baiting, to prevent flame wars).

When it comes to Fiestafan, we only deal with things if they come up more than once, and by multiple people. You have only posted a topic in the suggestion and feedback forum once. Here. About necroposting, and after that, when multiple people started to complain and have issues with it, we decided to make it so that as long as the post is constructive and contributes to the post, it's fine. Congratulations, you contributed to some change on the forums.

And as for Tequila, you suggested something and then when a G____G or whoever suggested it, we listened. What was it? Who did we listen to? Got a link? Proof? Shall I say "screen shot or it didn't happen". And just because you suggest something, it doesn't mean we are going to listen to it, as I told Mikey, once we receive multiple complains, not from the same two people, we will look into fixing it. You yourself, have never posted a thread in the suggestion and feedback forum. And from personal perspective, and as I've seen others say, it does seem like you only come around and all of a sudden care about this forum when someone decides to throw a fit against the mods, or some sort of drama stirs up. If you truly cared about the forums, you'd have posted a thread or two in the feedback forum or talk with the mods long ago (seeing as you are an old, but unfortunately inactive member), and you haven't, so I'm guessing you don't care. It is only the internet after all.

You are undeniably the only two who are consistent in your fits and arguments, and I don't mean consistent in facts, consistent as in its always the SAME THING and its always you two. Mods, favoritism, care bear forum, etc etc. Well where are your suggestions? You want change don't you?? Then tell us, with facts, examples, links, screenshots, quotes, proof of this injustice and tell us HOW we can fix it! Don't come to the forum, and just because one starts to throw a fit, calls out a mod in an intimidating manner, the other backs up with invalid accusations, and expect us to change the forums purely because of THAT. Its only two people, a fit, and accusations. Over and over again.

Now if the majority here agrees with you, then by all means, we will make a change, but if not, oh well. All I can say is suck it up, or leave if you don't get your way.

If we listened to people who threw fits purely because they were throwing a fit, we'd be spoiling the person and before we knew it, everyone would be stepping all over us, and the forums would be one big troll fest.

We don't cut you slack because you both are older members, you know the rules, you know whats goes and what does not, yet you don't respect them and overreact when punished for it and don't bother suggesting anything. But this does not mean we are targeting you. If anyone did this, we would treat them the same.

Basically... this entire thing was pointless IMO. And especially since it all started at 2 in the morning.

I don't care if my post sounded unprofessional, I can get demoted if need be. This isn't a professional site, but if my words have been contradicting, oh well. You get what you give. Want respect? Give it. And I haven't seen much given lately. So why should I give it? We try our best to make this forums a safe and fair place, but if this crap keeps happening, I don't know if its worth it.

Wow after reading this I have to admit, Most of the Mods (And I did say MOST) Need attitude adjustments, Blaahs even stated before she doesnt care what the members think, That doesnt sound like a very good admin to me.

I have a feeling this si going to turn out similar to Outspark, Someone challenges them so they ban/lock/etc.

When did I say that? o_o

We do care about what you guys think. Do we let it get to us? No. But stuff like this is frustrating while we're on here. We come here for leisure time, but also volunteer our time to maintain these forums, but no matter what we do, the same stuff keeps coming up over and over(by the same people), we and others are being accused of things time and time again when no matter what we do, we can't change things. And no we're not going to change because its the same people, they don't suggest anything, and when we're accused of stuff, its false.

I do not think we need "attitude adjustments", we are only human, this isn't Outspark, myspace, or Comcast customer service, and we only give the respect we are given.

Nevermind :P I misread the post, I take that back Blaaahs

When we have to put up with the same crap from the same people, it gets annoying and redundant. Attitude adjustments? Try frustrated at the lack of sense that some people show on this forum. How about fed up with people who only want to stir up drama. You put up with it on a regular basis and see how pink and rosey you are. Put up with people telling you that you suck at doing a voluntary job, put up with people constantly telling you that you are showing favoritism when you know damn well you are not, put up with this shit from the same people over and over then tell me how you feel. Don't judge until you have been through what the other person has been through.
Put up with the attitudes that the mods have to go through and then tell me who needs an attitude adjustment.

WTF, should we just allow people to make fun of other people just for the hell of it?

Should we allow people to make fun of BDex because he is English? Or Vasu because he is Indian? Or Hazu because she is blonde? Or how about Lady-Loki because she is old? (oh wait, that already happened and we did not allow it then either). Wait guys!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! We should have allowed all those insults to stay, Geese is not GG!!!!!!!!!!! Oh wait, we don't play favorites. Guess we did do the right thing.

I do not give a crap who the person is, an insult is an insult. WE do not allow them, no matter who gives them and who they are giving them to.

Wow, lol.
I agree with some of the things Mikey said, and I agree with what some of the Mods/Admins said.

Just because you're mad and have the power, Does NOT mean you can ban give three infractions. And yes he WAS being rude, but you still could've remained cool and been polite and told him to stop double posting.


Hey, a month ago i started the whole favoritism thing, You told me to stop, I carried on with it. I did not get an infraction, Yet my friend did for doing the same exact thing as me. That doesn't even seem fair.


It seems whenever people on here try to state their opinion on here, They get flamed. Well of course they're going to get flamed! Are we not allowed to state our opinion without getting bitched at? Or getting infractions? Or even getting banned?! No! We aren't! We don't have the right of speech on here, Who would ever want that?

Yeah, we can't state our own opinions without having Billions of people ganging on us. Or even being considerate.

I just think this site needs some cleaning up. really, I do.

Couldn't it have been one infraction for the double posts? I'm not a mod on here, I have no freaking clue how you guys run things here. You all seem the same. Like someone said before, Like clones.

Attitude Adjustments? I think yes (:

Yes, they can. It is stated that double posting will give you an infraction, and 3 infractions will result in banning.

They're just following the rules, geez.

He has been told, many times not just in this thread, to use the edit button.

What are mod suppose to do if they've already told them, but they won't listen?

Suggestion?

They've already been told and reminded what the rules are. If word doesn't get through, I'd think that appropriate actions shall take place.

Okay great, But they act like they're mad and they gave him infractions because they were mad. Maybe restating why they got infractions would clear more things up.


and can somebody tell me what is so BAD about double posting?

I don't think you're reading properly. He was infracted for double posting. Not because the mods were mad.

Mikey isn't an idiot. He just chooses not to comply with the rules set by the forums.

He knows exactly why he received them. Most with half a brain will know why they have received a warning and/or infraction. It gives them a link to their offending post.

I don't think it's bad, prolly just an annoyance. Like (each number is a diff post):

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Hey, if Amber wants an infraction, give her one.