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O-mie 08-23-2007 05:23 AM

I'm going 15 end, then 1:1 str/spr :o On ob I had 1 point in end, the rest in spr and str, and I killed pretty good but when I got hit I got hit GOOD. I could still solo things in red so long as I had some scrolls on xD

DTOSensei 08-23-2007 04:42 PM

Seeing opinions
 
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Originally Posted by O-mie (Post 13824)
I Think pure anything (like pure dex, pure spr) isn't a great build to use.

I support you in that O-mie :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 13971)
That makes sense. I did try full SPR and before I even reached Lv20 I had a good critical rate (loved those skill crits that OHKO).

It is truth, archer dont need much Spr to make CH (Critical Hit) :D

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Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 13971)
Then either DEX or END cause you don't need both in my opinion. I'd go full DEX afterwards. As should be with Archers. :P


But I do not believe either that it needs to be Full Dex, I believe that it requires a little more Str than of Dex. :rolleyes:
By regular the Archer wins in Dex average between 3 to 4 by level. :eek:
And Str between 2 to 3 by level. :(

I use this build Dex: Str 1:2 I work well all along that it uses it. :cool:
Perhaps Spr 10 or 15 raises. But leaving build.

Empowerments :eek:
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Originally Posted by Belaslav (Post 13858)
and as for poison - Duration time.

Here I do not have left clear. Why Duration Time? :confused:
The Duration Time that has the Skill is sufficient.
It is not thus? :eek:

I want to learn much of the Archers. And what you think
Welcome to my world of doubts hehe.
We will continue ourselves seeing :cool:

O-mie 08-24-2007 05:26 AM

We will all definitely have to meet back here when we get to higher levels to discuss how our builds are working out. =3

+Tequila+ 08-25-2007 05:27 AM

:D Just my twooooo cents but technically a archer can go pure str ^^ in CB1 we had Hecatomix...pure str archer *at a time the highest archer in the game*...he was pure ownage in PvP an PvE..Since archers get high Dex boost...Pure Str is plausible...an worth doing :D.

Kamilah 08-25-2007 05:33 AM

I like your build, O-mie. I was iffy on adding that small amount of END, but you made it sound worth it. I'll probably be doing something similar. I'm definitely getting 25 SPR, but I might stop after that and go full STR. I'll see how things go. =P

O-mie 08-25-2007 10:58 PM

Yeah, I was only going to get spr to 25 and was thinking of going 5:1 str/end after that, or something similar. The thing with crits is that, people forget that archers get a bit of a crit bonus and also their weapon adds crit. If you use a green crossbow, thats +7% crit right there.

MrMud 08-26-2007 12:11 AM

ill probly go spr till 25 then...ill find out then

Destrus 08-27-2007 03:21 AM

i'm kind of split, my stats were scattered in CB. i ended up with mostly str, about 6 spr, some dex, and some end. with those few points of end i was finally able to survive mara's aoe which is definately good cause that's one less life wasted so i was thinking of going 2:1 str:end but i also loved those crits. maybe i'll just put the bonus points from job change in spr and i'll completely ignore dex this time unlike last time when i put a few points in it

Allizar 08-28-2007 05:22 PM

I am planning for the future,


Strength:
When you start strength is very effective, say you are level 5 and you do 10 damage every hit, If you put 5 points into strength this goes up to 16 every hit which is a major 60% increase!

However,

Now you are level 100, and you do 1000 damage every hit, if you put 100 points into strength then you only have a 10% bonus, instead of 60, this trend continues the higher you go.
Average damage per shot = 1100
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Spirit:
You are level 5 again and do 10 damage per hit, but you decide to put 5 points in spirit instead. This gives you a 1% increase to critical hits and a little sp and Mdef. A 1% chance of doing 10 extra damage(assuming critical hits are double damage) is a mere 1% increase in damage over time.

However,

Now your level 100, and you do 1000 damage every hit, you have put 100 points into spirit which increases your critical hit rate by 12.5%. Your average bonus damage from the extra crits would be 125/shot
Average damage per shot = 1125 (added benefits of SP and magic defense)

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Dex:
First off I have never missed a shot as an archer, my dex is my highest stat even though I have never put a point into it. The higher I get the more I will dodge naturally, and I will always have more dex then other classes. The higher you get the less usefull this will be, I would rather kill my opponent before he gets to me anyway.

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Int:
Useless for an archer

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End:
Adds hp, def, and shield block

HP/def- You may very well need to up this some, I imagine higher level bosses will have some form of AE's or ways to damage you at range, and you can't shoot if your dead. I will possibly put my points from class changes into this.
Shield block- useless for archer

Whudafux 08-28-2007 06:24 PM

I was thinking about going 3:1 Spr:Dex in my Archer. The extra Dex is needed for the extra Evasion so that the monster always misses me. <3


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