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Hyper 02-22-2008 04:27 PM

But this game is 99% server sided. That = not changeable or hackable. And Ghostly was one of the only people who could do anything to change it, but he knew some way past it (not suprising, since he had edited files before). He never even hacked to cheat, he edited a skill file. I'm just saying that X-crap is completely pointless.


Bots are the only thing this could change, but that hasn't worked well, has it?

Lady-Loki 02-22-2008 04:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Loveless (Post 95306)
So that's what the patch was about. I play BK and it has XTrap but it causes me no problem at all and I don't think it causes any problem with Fiesta either. That being said, if XTrap isn't getting rid of botters and only actual players I see no reason for it be coming back.

In short for the answer to the thread...


No.

Actually, yes it does cause problems with Fiesta. I know this for a fact. It has stopped the PC my grandkids use and that PC never had problems launching Fiesta before that last time x-trap was implemented and that cleared up when they removed it - they redeployed it and that PC will no longer launch Fiesta.

It does NOT affect the ability of the PC in my den to access Fiesta and it may not affect the ability of your PC to access Fiesta, but it absolutely does affect the ability of some PC's to access Fiesta.

Loveless 02-22-2008 05:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady-Loki (Post 95322)
Actually, yes it does cause problems with Fiesta. I know this for a fact. It has stopped the PC my grandkids use and that PC never had problems launching Fiesta before that last time x-trap was implemented and that cleared up when they removed it - they redeployed it and that PC will no longer launch Fiesta.

It does NOT affect the ability of the PC in my den to access Fiesta and it may not affect the ability of your PC to access Fiesta, but it absolutely does affect the ability of some PC's to access Fiesta.

I meant with my Fiesta, I know it causes problems with other PCs. I wonder if it has something to do with the operating systems people use?

@Hyper: Probably best not to write down an actual name. We all know who it is but still. ;P

Lady-Loki 02-22-2008 05:30 PM

I don't think the version of OS is the issue because the PC I have that will no longer run Fiesta is an XP and that was the latest prior to Vista and I'm pretty sure everyone left playing are not all Vista users.

There is something about my XP PC that x-trap does not like and no one in Outspark tech support was able to resolve it last time. I will however open a new trouble ticket with them on the issue as soon as I get a chance and see what they say this time (not only that, they need a flood of trouble tickets to see the full impact of re-deploying x-trap).

Loveless 02-22-2008 05:34 PM

Just throwing in possibilities. I had no problem with it using XP and currently Vista. It's possible that some people's computers have some sort of "bot" from visiting certain sites (not necessarily bad ones). Perhaps doing a spy-ware check and/or anti-virus scan? I use CCleaner and it helps to deleted unwanted cookies as well as registry keys that is no longer used.

I just visited the official forums to see what it's like... just like last time when they implemented XTrap there's several hate threads about it. :P They really don't learn now do they?

O-mie 02-22-2008 06:21 PM

I don't get why they don't just get gameguard. I mean it'd be a bit more expensive but it'd be worth it. Bots running amuck, bots using hacks so they don't respawn and an stay in fields advertising, etc etc etc. It makes their service look very unprofessional and they would have so much more customers if they improved their professionalism.

Ulrike 02-22-2008 06:33 PM

man... they need to find an alternate solution instead of retrying something old and decrepit like xtrap >.>

Lady-Loki 02-22-2008 07:36 PM

I now have Fiesta running on the second computer. Below is the e-mail I just sent to Outspark on how I resolved the problem.

Quote:

From: <deleted for privacy>
Date: 2/22/2008 2:21:28 PM
To: support@outspark.com
Subject: Re: [#####]: Unable to Connect After Patch - X-Trap Issue

The messages below are regarding a ticket I opened the first time x-trap was deployed. The x-trap application was subsequently removed and the problem was cleared up, however, with the recent patch and re-deployment of x-trap the problem returned.

As such I have tried many of the old and unsuccessful attempts to resolve the issue, and again, to no avail. This time I decided to test the theory that there may be a conflict between the x-trap application and Spector Pro Internet Monitoring software. I un-installed Spector Pro and am again able to access Fiesta. The only conclusion in light of these efforts is that there is absolutely, without doubt, a conflict between the x-trap application and Spector Pro Internet Monitoring software.

This is somewhat troubling since I have a 13-year old granddaughter who I feel should be monitored when she is on the InterNet. Of course I can install & un-install over and over according to what application or activity the grandchildren wish to have going on that particular PC, but that is cumbersome and annoying.

That said, I would hope that with this information in hand someone in your companies IT department can research this conflict and hopefully find a resolution for those of us who need to monitor kids on the InterNet.

Please advise. Thank you,
<deleted for privacy>
Outspark ID Lady-Loki
For those under someone elses rule (i.e. you are still young and momma still has say so) the issue may very well be Internet monitoring software, and there may be nothing that's gonna fix it for you unless momma decides she doesn't need to monitor you anymore.

Triumph 02-22-2008 08:21 PM

It appears that they believe the community has forgotten about it.

Zucchini 02-23-2008 12:48 PM

X-trap interrupts my gameplay sometimes, but have faith in the GMs, they're trying to do their best. Imagine having to go through 1000 PMs when you login AND still have to think of ways to keep the bots at bay.


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