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Enraya 01-10-2008 11:17 AM

If archers are pitied by parties, why don't they just stop pitying high level archers and just invite them?

For pure grinding, archers should be inferior to mages. That just sucks outright, especially now that mages have OUR ability, DoTs. OUR speciality is gone, we are not SPECIAL anymore, because mages can do what we do, and do it BETTER. I'm not going to change classes, because archers are the right class for me. I have to agree, though, that it does seem we're kinda ripped off D=

Spirit 01-10-2008 01:05 PM

This may make me seem like a noob, but I don't understand why people don't want archers. When we are in FoS killing stuff, I can tell a major difference when Eclipse is not with us and when he is. As a mage, I would like to think I am more powerful than an archer, but truth be told, I would rather party with an archer than another mage.

Enraya 01-10-2008 01:09 PM

Archers and mages, even though they are both DDs, just have different abilities /shrug

The only thing I complain is our DoTs given to mages. I agree with Spirit on a mage overpowering an archer, at least in damage. I don't complain with the AoEs, the power burst, mages are MADE to deal high-damage paper cuts while being flimsy paper. But DoTs as a finishing touch just doesn't seem right. Our poisons were what set us apart from mages, other than our better endurance.

Ethelinde 01-10-2008 01:14 PM

My l38 cleric would love to leech off of higher level archers (duoing isn't bad for me at all). I am a reasonably good healer in Uruga area as long as I don't have orcs stuck to me, and I'm not stingy at all about burning sp stones to keep my party alive (my level is lower so the archer get more exp anyway). If any higher level archer is interested in duoing with my cleric please send me a pm with your playtime (I'm in eastern time zone and play on Apoline server). P.s. just my personal opinion.... archer is way better than mages when it comes to killing mobs much stronger (DoTs do same amount of damage regardless of enemy's defense) :D

Esper 01-11-2008 12:00 AM

Archers are ok at doing aoe, but where they really shine is 1v1, an archer 50+ could probly kill most things faster then a mage 1v1

TheGhanExpress 01-11-2008 01:35 AM

its funny i was recently thinking, man archers do too much damage, they should do more damage with buffs and less with just straight shots. They are too much like us mage except they can take a hit better. I'm level 39 and I see archer do poison etc and then hit normal and they kill the monster the same as me. If they are going to hit as hard as a mage, why do they have higher end. I say class balance is needed, to make archers weaker.

a.L 01-11-2008 01:41 AM

An archer's damage varies alot. If none of the poisons actually land properly the kill speed becomes alot slower.

TheGhanExpress 01-11-2008 02:01 AM

are you saying that poison attack can hit without leaving poison damage. so even if they dont "miss" which can be corrected with power scroll, there is a possibility of the poison not working? This doesnt seem to be my observation.

a.L 01-11-2008 02:29 AM

Yes. Even if the skill hits the mob, it may not poison.

Loveless 01-11-2008 02:56 AM

Archers don't need to hit as hard as a mage... but they sure should hit faster than one.


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