In most of the guild wars i've seen Stone stocks did not effect very much at all unless it was a 1v1 fight
In a properly coordinated attack we've been able to kill groups of 5x players within a few minutes without horribly outnumbering them.


You also have not pointed out how Extenders are countered out.
EXTENDERS also affect things drastically
while hp and sp go up to 200%. DAMAGE DOES NOT, so theres no compensation. To make maters worse the extenders increase how much stones heal too

Btw: yosei who was asking for help against us?

i'm not really sure what the point of pvp is anyway - kinda fun for about two seconds - then you realize - 'hey, maybe this is outspark's way of suckin my mp and hp pots/stones and distracting me from other things that actually benefit my character like quests and exp grinding.'
it'd be nice to be in a guild for all other reasons except guild wars XXXXP

I'm a cleric, so 1v1s have always sucked. I do see Renin's point, though. However, to me, the only way around it is to make sure you set rules for people you 1v1. And if they won't play by rules, then don't GW with them.

WOW we have VERY contrasting viewpoints..


Fiesta PVP. RIP

PvP or GvG should be just killing each other, who cares if they use cash shop items. PvP and GvG doesn't do anything but give you fun of killing.

Oh there is so much you don't understand about me and other people. :D

There are people who like to be competitive and Pvp is one of the few things to express that. Its not that us being serious about it ruins the fun, but it just makes us enjoy something much more because we like it.

Its the same mentality Athletes get whenever they play a sport. May seem funny its concentrated on a video game but we like being driven to be the best.

ANYWAY
Its a shame though to see something that was fun get ruined. I guess few people care about this aspect of the game.

they shouldn't have any cash shop items in the first place then if it seems not fair to people that are into PvP. Like Lineage, it doesn't have any cash shop items and PvP just depends on your items you got and how you use your character

Hm... I can't remember. It was one of my friends.. I want to say DragonSlayer, but I'm not sure o.o

Yeah, I would totally see Renin's point if this game was like Lineage 2, where PVP is a huge part of the game. But the FACT is, Fiesta's pvp aspect is so limited and half-assed right now that I can't help but laugh at people taking it all serious at the moment.