Hm. your right about the gears, i have those. but the build i list is one of many experimental builds me and a few others went through. Its not suggested unless you are strictly a mage vs mage person. The trick is now to find a way to fight other classes using the build.

25 end has no purpose except for extra hp. defense?? heck no. spr is for the M.def, crit? might as well go crit suit if thats what you are after. after reaching the recommended spr, you have the choice of int or dex for the rest. i may personally go dex because of the annoying trickster class that came out. When you fill your mage with int, how much of it is needed until it becomes unnecessary? If somebody would mark this number for me it would be appreciated. At cap, it looks like the only thing a mage would fear would be archers fighters and mostly other mages. What happens when int mage vs int mage?

... If I remember correctly you were all about being "non-CS" so if you're going to get a crit suit that contradicts your points.

Again, DEX is also pointless for a Mage. That's what you should be getting from gears not free-stat if you're looking to increase Aim. If you're looking to increase Evasion... sigh, a Mage's base Evasion makes it pointless once again.

There is not cap on INT. Much like the STR class you can always benefit from this free-stat as it adds damage whislt ignoring the enemy m.def in this case.

A good Mage will not have to fear anything if they know how to use their skills right.

Nooooo i didnt mean to use a crit suit i mean if its crit that you are looking for. I also meant level cap as in leveling up. dex isnt completely pointless i used a full dex mage previously without any problems. Dex would be good for aim and nothing else. I dont use SC myself because i dont purchase "wins", blue gears are another story.

Seriously stop whining about spark cash. If your not going to take the advice and help given to you, just stop ... because no one here really even plays Fiesta still, so we are not looking for your advice - or your new takes on how to build chars. We're all just trying to help you with the knowledge we already have about the game, so take it or leave it.

Case and point. You will not win against heavy CS users if you invest in anything other than INT.

Aim should be from gears and scrolls.

Alright, so my next test will be full int. Thanks Loveless for explaining Kindly. Now im sure you may have used a mage too, so why not give a skill order as if Everybody was equal in gear and Charm? just for me? eh? ;)

Hmmm I'll take the advice, but i will share my experiments, now you dont have to listen to em. whats your class Mikey?

Don't double post unless you're in MOS!

There are a lot of good guides for PvP mages on the Outspark forums, too. Many of them include sections for those who can't purchase Sparkcash. You should check it out if you're having problems.

Mage, Fighter.

Yeah, maybe I'll get to that section and see what they say... Mikey, as a mage what are your threats?

Clerics. That was it.