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Sheapy 07-29-2007 11:02 PM

End is kinda needed for archers since they kill monsters by speed, not by power (Mages). I don't think that they also need Dex since they get enough through leveling and some buffs (They get dex from buffs right)

a 1:2 Str/Spr build sounds good to me since high crit rate sounds appropriate for archers

JimJimster 07-30-2007 03:57 AM

im lvl 16 archer and i hav 6:10 dex:end

i just kinda randomly put it either of the skills but i must say ive seen a high lvl archer with full end block about half of the attacks of a mage in a free battle zone

i can do really short tanks for the parties i do with my friend, hes a lower level so i just do the auto attack while he kills watever monster and we usually fight yellow monsters

i suggest full end but thats just me

KY_Jelly 07-30-2007 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Sheapy (Post 9528)
End is kinda needed for archers since they kill monsters by speed, not by power (Mages). I don't think that they also need Dex since they get enough through leveling and some buffs (They get dex from buffs right)

a 1:2 Str/Spr build sounds good to me since high crit rate sounds appropriate for archers

if your archer kills the mob before he can get more than 1 or 2 hits on you and your evasion is high enough that you dodge a consistant amount of shots, whats the point of the extra HP and def?

Niion 07-30-2007 06:32 AM

I have a pure str lvl 17, and it does decently <<

Blaaaaaaaah 07-30-2007 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sheapy (Post 9528)
a 1:2 Str/Spr build sounds good to me since high crit rate sounds appropriate for archers

I don't remember the exact ratio I had on my archer, but I put stats in only STR and SPR, and I don't think it does too well. It doesn't have enough SPR to crit significantly and it doesn't have enough STR to do enough damage.

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Originally Posted by KY_Jelly (Post 9610)
if your archer kills the mob before he can get more than 1 or 2 hits on you and your evasion is high enough that you dodge a consistant amount of shots, whats the point of the extra HP and def?

I reckon it would be hard for archers to kill before the monster reaches him. Even mages, who deals a great a mount of damage, have to tank one or two hits sometimes. So they would need the END.

KY_Jelly 07-30-2007 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 9622)
I reckon it would be hard for archers to kill before the monster reaches him. Even mages, who deals a great a mount of damage, have to tank one or two hits sometimes. So they would need the END.

gotten 2 archers to 20+ now and i have no problem with it. even monsters equal and a bit higher than your level can be taken if you spam skills. and with an SPR intensive build (which i've tried to show my reasoning for one) you can spam skills pretty easy.

average monster speed, an archer can get 4 shots in before mob can attack (obviously less with ranged mobs) and as early as level 17, archers have 4 skills. so worst comes to worst, you can throw 4 skills at a higher level mob and bring it down before it touches you. sure you will use more SP pots/stones that way, but you should cut the amount of HP pots and stones you use down by a significant number.

OdioOmnus 08-13-2007 12:42 AM

I've been making a SPR archer, and I have to say even at a level as low as 9 it seems to be relatively effective. I can often kill most reasonable enemies before they hit me, and with my defense scroll surplus from my cleric even if they do it's not for much damage. Already I have a decent critrate which should only improve, and I have plenty of SP for my skills; the cooldown is more of a factor in levelling than the SP cost.

Daghian 08-13-2007 02:01 AM

1-29
Str:Dex:End
2:2:1

30+
Str:Dex:Spr
2:2:1

Best build right thurrr hehe

Loveless 08-14-2007 03:03 AM

I've tried the STR:END buid and it did quite decently. I was able to take on monsters higher than me and not worry too much about getting hit either.

Right now I'm going full SPR and have to say I like it so far. I mean if you use the skills right you can take down monsters without using all of the skills (if that makes sense). I can't wait to get my job change and try a crossbow and see how things work out then. I usually choose bows cause I like speed and whatnot but I'm going to need some added power anyway so yeah~

bcdood 08-14-2007 11:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Daghian (Post 11854)
1-29
Str: Dex: End
2:2:1

30+
Str: Dex: Spr
2:2:1

Best build right thurrr hehe

Yeah, I like that build too. It's pretty kickass for solo and groups. Also does decent in PVP


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