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Are you guys talking about economic systems or forms or government? The two of them are clearly different but you guys keep mentioning both in the same sentence.

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Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 319665)

Capitalism sucks too. The theory behind trotskyism is that, since in a communnist system, a single ruler will take far too much power, and in a capitalist system, an elite upper class will rise, if you mixed a democracy and a communist system, you would be able to eliminate both an all-powerful government, and destroy any chance of an upper class rising. Plus i like putting the Anarcho- prefix behind it, therefore making it a system of government in which the people band together, eliminate injustice, and share resources.

And Trotskyism IS also democracy, therefore giving the people to leave if they dont like it

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Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 320051)

Are you guys talking about economic systems or forms or government? The two of them are clearly different but you guys keep mentioning both in the same sentence.

I don't think the op understands the difference :)

I don't know if this is going to help but I wiktionaried (god, is that a word? lol) some of the above "isms" just for simplicity sake.

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Anarchism
1. The belief that proposes the absence and abolition of government in all forms.
2. Specifically, a political and philosophical belief that all forms of involuntary rule or government are undesirable or unnecessary, and that society could function without a ruler or involuntary government (a state).

Communism
1. The ideology of political parties that use the term Communist in their names, usually Marxist and Leninist.
2. The socio-economic system based on such parties' ideologies.
3. (US, informal) A state of affairs perceived as oppressive, overly arbitrary, or totalitarian.

Socialism
1. Any of various political philosophies that support social and economic equality, collective decision-making and public control of productive capital and natural resources, as advocated by socialists.
2. The socialist political philosophies as a group, including Marxism, libertarian socialism, democratic socialism, and social democracy.
3. (Leninism) The intermediate phase of social development between capitalism and full communism. This is a strategy whereby the State has control of all key resource-producing industries and manages most aspects of the market, in contrast to laissez faire capitalism.
4. (Classical Marxism) The international communist society where classes and the state no longer exist.

Fundamentalism
1. (religion) The tendency to reduce a religion to its most fundamental tenets, based on strict interpretation of core texts.
2. (finance) The belief that fundamental financial quantities are the best predictor of the price of an instrument.
3. The beliefs held by those in this movement.
4. Strict adherence to any set of basic ideas or principles.

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Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 320051)

Are you guys talking about economic systems or forms or government? The two of them are clearly different but you guys keep mentioning both in the same sentence.

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Originally Posted by Eru (Post 320444)

I don't think the op understands the difference :)

No, im referring to the way in which communism has been used and viewed thus far.

I know communism is an economic system, but usually, it has been used in a facist system. Stalinism, for example.