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.o0O0O0o. 10-01-2007 03:55 PM

It's all about your playstyle. SPR if you wanna see more big burst damage and you like the color purple filling out your screen. INT for constant, steady, reliable damage.

.o0O0O0o. 10-01-2007 04:20 PM

Let's see some math.

SPR:

25 > 5%
54 > 5.4%
+5 (lvl 20) > .5%

Total +% = 10.9% @ level 59 (highest right now and not sure how much pts we get afterwards)

INT:

59 > 59 damage
59/5 (+1 damage per 5 level) > 19 damage
+5 (lvl 20) > 6 damage

Total damage = 84 damage @ level 59

All mages are alike statwise, damagewis, %wise. So the only variables are the added SPR and INT. Let's speculate the average damage is 1000 (for easier math :p). We run a test of 1000 cast. So that's 1 million damage at the end of the run, this is how much damage pure STR or END mage would do. The amount of starting % crit or added damage is constant.

SPR

1000 casts subject to 10.9% added crit would equate to 109 critted casts. Thus making:

- 891 casts @ 1000 = 891,000
- 109 casts @ 2000 = 218,000

Total damage is 1,109,000 as full SPR.

INT

1000 casts subject to 84 added damage would make it:

- 1000 casts @ 1084 = 1,084,000

Total damage is 1,084,000 as full INT.

Now, for the added damage, i'm assuming it is only added at the end of the damage equation that outspark has deviced. But in case it is factored into the equation, just like when you check you're weapon, it says it's a so-and-so +2 or +3 weapons but the actual added damage is sometimes 2x more than what the + weapon actually is when you check the damage, then it may end up that full INT is actually better damagewise, in the long run.

*DISCLAIMER*

I used my old beat up brain, so there may be some flaws and whatnot in there :p Also, i acknowledge that i don't understand all of how outspark damage equations are calculated.

Lilian 10-01-2007 04:25 PM

if it helps you any in your choice, my build is:

+15 INT
Rest into SPR.

and I'm already hoping I hadn't wasted those 15 points on int. :P

Yosei 10-01-2007 04:32 PM

My builds 1:2 INT:SPR. You want to have a good amount of INT to increase your damage. We naturally do alot of damage, but hey.. might as well have LOTS of it ^^

MagesRequiem 10-03-2007 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .o0O0O0o. (Post 22990)
Let's see some math.

SPR:

25 > 5%
54 > 5.4%
+5 (lvl 20) > .5%

Total +% = 10.9% @ level 59 (highest right now and not sure how much pts we get afterwards)

INT:

59 > 59 damage
59/5 (+1 damage per 5 level) > 19 damage
+5 (lvl 20) > 6 damage

Total damage = 84 damage @ level 59

All mages are alike statwise, damagewis, %wise. So the only variables are the added SPR and INT. Let's speculate the average damage is 1000 (for easier math :p). We run a test of 1000 cast. So that's 1 million damage at the end of the run, this is how much damage pure STR or END mage would do. The amount of starting % crit or added damage is constant.

SPR

1000 casts subject to 10.9% added crit would equate to 109 critted casts. Thus making:

- 891 casts @ 1000 = 891,000
- 109 casts @ 2000 = 218,000

Total damage is 1,109,000 as full SPR.

INT

1000 casts subject to 84 added damage would make it:

- 1000 casts @ 1084 = 1,084,000

Total damage is 1,084,000 as full INT.

Now, for the added damage, i'm assuming it is only added at the end of the damage equation that outspark has deviced. But in case it is factored into the equation, just like when you check you're weapon, it says it's a so-and-so +2 or +3 weapons but the actual added damage is sometimes 2x more than what the + weapon actually is when you check the damage, then it may end up that full INT is actually better damagewise, in the long run.

*DISCLAIMER*

I used my old beat up brain, so there may be some flaws and whatnot in there :p Also, i acknowledge that i don't understand all of how outspark damage equations are calculated.

Unfortunately, i'm going to have to disregard this entire post as it contains Math... and I hate Math. Math makes my brain cry itself to sleep at night. Well I kinda figured out that a pure SPR build would just suck. Getting a crit in my case is very rare. Except for today when I got like 10 crits in a row. I was thinking of going 1:1 on INT and SPR but I think that might not be fair to SPR seeing as how its much lower than INT and its far more important. I think that a 1:2 INT and SPR build might be the best but i'm not entirely sure. Then again... these stat points make very little difference. I guess i'll just go 1:2 with INT and SPR.

n00bLar 10-03-2007 05:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by .o0O0O0o. (Post 22990)
Let's see some math.

SPR:

25 > 5%
54 > 5.4%
+5 (lvl 20) > .5%

Total +% = 10.9% @ level 59 (highest right now and not sure how much pts we get afterwards)

INT:

59 > 59 damage
59/5 (+1 damage per 5 level) > 19 damage
+5 (lvl 20) > 6 damage

Total damage = 84 damage @ level 59

All mages are alike statwise, damagewis, %wise. So the only variables are the added SPR and INT. Let's speculate the average damage is 1000 (for easier math :p). We run a test of 1000 cast. So that's 1 million damage at the end of the run, this is how much damage pure STR or END mage would do. The amount of starting % crit or added damage is constant.

SPR

1000 casts subject to 10.9% added crit would equate to 109 critted casts. Thus making:

- 891 casts @ 1000 = 891,000
- 109 casts @ 2000 = 218,000

Total damage is 1,109,000 as full SPR.

INT

1000 casts subject to 84 added damage would make it:

- 1000 casts @ 1084 = 1,084,000

Total damage is 1,084,000 as full INT.

Now, for the added damage, i'm assuming it is only added at the end of the damage equation that outspark has deviced. But in case it is factored into the equation, just like when you check you're weapon, it says it's a so-and-so +2 or +3 weapons but the actual added damage is sometimes 2x more than what the + weapon actually is when you check the damage, then it may end up that full INT is actually better damagewise, in the long run.

*DISCLAIMER*

I used my old beat up brain, so there may be some flaws and whatnot in there :p Also, i acknowledge that i don't understand all of how outspark damage equations are calculated.

Assuming you get the additional 84 damage at lvl 59 from going full INT, will that additional 84 dmg even make a difference when you are that lvl?

I haven't been that far but I doubt that that +84 would make a difference.

MagesRequiem 10-03-2007 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by n00bLar (Post 23464)
Assuming you get the additional 84 damage at lvl 59 from going full INT, will that additional 84 dmg even make a difference when you are that lvl?

I haven't been that far but I doubt that that +84 would make a difference.

84 extra points of damage? At that level? No. +84 points of damage at level 20 wouldn't make a difference.

.o0O0O0o. 10-03-2007 05:18 PM

Doubt it would make much difference, but every damage point counts toward the death of said mob. But, for now i'm 2:1 int:spr.

MagesRequiem 10-03-2007 05:21 PM

Thats why I use a Power Scroll, lol. But that doesn't seem to make much or any difference at all. Maybe its just me... oh well. Anyways, i'm probably just going to go 1:1 INT and SPR and buy an INT and SPR ring(s). Or probably go 1:2 INT and SPR with the same rings. SP is incredibly important to Mages. Without SP, we're useless.

.o0O0O0o. 10-03-2007 05:35 PM

You do know that Power scroll is for aim and not adding damage right?


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