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That's when you pull stuff on him and kill him since he's being useless anyways =D MUAHAHA

I've seen McDonald around before. He's an idiot. My friend told me about a person who only healed his/her party and the main tank. I'm assuming that was McDonald. Then again... I think my friend said his/her name was Element or something like that.

Anyways, its funny how very few Clerics know how to do their job. If you became a Cleric then your job is to heal everyone. Not just the people you like. Even if someone pisses you off and you hate them you're still obligated to heal and revive them when they need it.

The only people you're not obligated to heal/revive are KSers. There's just no excuse for that.

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Originally Posted by CursedJester (Post 20567)

its called the cleric class not the "everyone else's personal bitch" class. clerics heal who they feel deserves/needs/is important enough to heal.

nothing bothers me more than a dumb archer or mage bitching at a cleric that he wont heal him. stay behind the tank next time and dont be an idiot?

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Originally Posted by KY_Jelly (Post 20570)

Yeah, and the Cleric is a support class. Not a tanker, not a damage dealer, not a ranged attacker, or anything similar to that. Their job is to heal people and nothing else. I can understand if they neglect a few people but refusing to heal others except your own group or the main tanker is just stupid. I heal everyone as best I can no matter what because I know how to play a Cleric correctly.

the cleric obviously cant heal everyone, thus who he should heal is under his discretion.

if you are fighting a boss and get to close to the AOE, dont expect them to heal you. it was your fault and you aren't as important as the main tank, so they aren't going to stop healing the main tank to waste SP on you.

Clerics should heal who they feel needs healing. if you aren't someone they feel needs healing, deal with it.

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Originally Posted by KY_Jelly (Post 20582)

Well... thats not entirely true. I've seen Clerics take care of an entire group of people before. Its kinda difficult but still completely possible. The only time a Cleric has to focus on the main tank is when you're fighting the bosses. And until then the Cleric needs to be healing others to the best of his/her ability.

If you get too close to the AoE then thats your fault IF you're a Mage, Cleric, or an Archer. But as a Fighter you're pretty much expected to be up there kicking that creature's ass. I think being healed or at least revived isn't too much to ask for.

Besides, there's bound to be more than just one Cleric in each KQ so i'm sure one of them can take some time out to heal/revive a person really quickly. And everyone is just as important as the main tanker. Yes, without the main tanker there's a good chance the KQ will fail but without the others that boss isn't going to die any time soon.

Until Then Try Carring Buffs, Potions And Stones With You!!

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Originally Posted by CursedJester (Post 20588)

I have to differ in opinion with you on that one. With the rate at which people scurry around in a lot of the the KQ's it is next to inpossible to click on each person to status their HP level. I can keep track of my party because I have their picture on my screen.

IF I am the only cleric, then I will try to check other ppl, but that is not easy and everyone simply will not be checked on. Once we get to the K & Q or Mara & Marlone (haven't tried other KQ's yet), then I will focus my energy on the main tank whether they are in my party or not, but if I start taking hits from mobs and no one pulls them off me then we will lose the tank. Here's where I get real ticked, because then everyone wants to blame the cleric who didn't keep the tank healed! EXCUSE ME???? Where the heck were they while I was getting my behind slaughtered by mobs? They were busy trying to KS the Boss for their own quest completion.

And as I stated in a different thread on this same subject; I have tried running KQ’s doing nothing but pure heal and got to the end for an empty chest reward and not all my quest components complete. What was my benefit in running that KQ? I used tons of SP and get nothing while others are patting each other on the back for getting +5 or +6 weapons, lucky elrues and jewelry.

IMHO, if it was intended that the Clerics one and ONLY job was to keep all the STUPID people (who show up for a KQ with no buffs, potions or stones) alive then there would be a reward at the end of the KQ for the cleric. I tried it twice with the same end result.

I’m sorry, I am in this game to better my character also and to that end when I am down by a ratman and a warrior boar, you can bet your sweet cheeks I will be wailing on a ratman or warrior boar and if opportunity permits I will heal the fool who showed up with no stones or potions, but priority one is MY quest status, thank you very much!

Now, if all other classes don't like clerics having to take care of mobs while in KQ's then petition the GM's to change the reward system and make it worth a cleric running KQ's doing nothing but heal.

UNTIL THEN TRY CARRYING BUFFS, POTIONS AND STONES WITH YOU!!

That doesn't make them stupid if they don't bring HP potions or stones. Some people are desperate to get into those KQ's and don't remember to bring supplies. I don't mean to be rude and I apologize if this offends you Lady but, you're really greedy. Being a Cleric is about helping others.

Not about rewards or getting praised for doing things such as healing, reviving, etc. You don't have to click on each individual person and check their health constantly. Most people will tell you when they need healed. So then you just click them and then heal them. I don't mind wasting all my SP potions or stones on people.

Heck, I don't mind dying for the group either. So yes, if I have to I will forfeit my EXP and treasure just so others can go on and complete the KQ or a quest. It seems silly to most people but not to me. I play a Cleric so I can help others as much as I possibly can and when I don't want to help any more I just switch to my Mage.

[quote=iMage;20611]That doesn't make them stupid if they don't bring HP potions or stones. Some people are desperate to get into those KQ's and don't remember to bring supplies. I don't mean to be rude and I apologize if this offends you Lady but, you're really greedy. Being a Cleric is about helping others.

Not about rewards or getting praised for doing things such as healing, reviving, etc. You don't have to click on each individual person and check their health constantly. Most people will tell you when they need healed. So then you just click them and then heal them. I don't mind wasting all my SP potions or stones on people. quote]

I'm pretty sure that you are going to offend her with that comment, because you offended me. I can tell you from game experience and real life experience that Lady-Loki is one of the most UNSELFISH people you would ever be lucky enough to meet.
And I'm sorry, last time I checked there was nothing in the rule books that stated that we were supposed to go on a KQ simply to keep everyone alive and make sure that the KQ was a success. There are TWO parts to the KQ, the first is the TASK that gives you the ability to go into the KQ. We want to finish this task, therefore WE are after whatever mobs are specified in our KQ.
The second is to ensure that the KQ is a success. As a cleric myself, I will do my dead-level best to keep everyone in MY group alive. I cannot keep everyone in the entire KQ alive, complete my task, attack enough mobs to actually have a chance at having something in my chest, and keep everyone in my party alive.
And yes, I have went into a KQ, and only kept everyone alive and also received an empty chest. Why should I even go if I get nothing out of it. No completed quest, no goodies in a chest, NOTHING? To simply let everyone else complete their quests and get something in their chest??? Waste of my time, if you ask me.
Yes, clerics can heal, and yes, ther cleric should heal. But to expect them to keep everyone alive and nothing else is selfish on all of the poeple's parts who made that comment. The mobs will turn on us, and we do have to fight them off. So now add, keep oursleves alive to the list of things a cleric must do in the KQ.
All Lady_Loki, and all of us other clerics who are TIRED of being criticized want is for poeple to lay-off the clerics and realize that we are there to play, have fun, and accomplish our tasks also. It is not all about them, it is about teamwork, and it is not ONE person's job to ensure that everyone survives. It is up to EVERYONE to ensure that everyone survives.
oh, and we are not asking for praise. We are simply asking for people to lay-off clerics. We realize that we were given the heal and revive abilty for a reason, and we use it as much as we can. So all we are asking is for all the complainers about how sorry clerics are is to make a cleric yourself and see how hard it is. It is not that easy, and for those of you who say you are a cleric and it is that easy, well good for you. You apparently have better gaming skills than us. Oh what??? "gaming" - you mean this is just a FREE GAME, meant to be played for fun and to kill time?????? Oof!! I thought with the way people have been ranting and raving that people were actually dieing and not popping back up into the KQ or back in town!!! Silly me.

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Originally Posted by iMage (Post 20611)

And just why are they so desperate to get into those KQ's that they don't remember to bring supplies? They want the quest completed in their quest list, they want the exp, copper and fame and they want the reward at the end. Seems just as greedy to me.

That said, consider this, one of the biggest benefits to the KQ is the exp you earn. If I never get the opportunity to complete the quest task I don't get the exp (oh yeah, all other classes can go for that benefit but thats not greedy of them! Oops, my bad!). Now that I can't get the KQ exp my only option to level up fast is grinding (oh yeah, all other classes can get quick exp for leveling in KQ but thats not greedy of them! Oops, my bad!).

I can heal others, I also need my quest complete, and just like everyone else in there, I want a reward at the end. If others are so desperate to get in that they don't take time to restock stones and potions and then expect me to keep them alive so they get their reward while I deplete my copper till buying stones and potions to keep them alive that sounds greedy on their part.

Here's the bottom line, no one, of any CLASS, should go into a KQ EXPECTING anyone else in there to keep them alive. If you go in, go in prepared to take care of yourself and be grateful for the cleric that does heal you, but give the cleric a chance to improve their own character in the game also. I play one of each class and even when I take my tank in, I do not EXPECT a cleric to keep me alive! I carry my buffs, stones and potions and I use them.

Like I said earlier, if all other classes don't like clerics having to take care of mobs while in KQ's then petition the GM's to change the reward system and make it worth a cleric running KQ's doing nothing but heal.