That's kinda...sad.


Only KQs I remember failing are the ones where the key goes to an afk or noone picks up the key that they found and just runs to the gate -.-

am I not suppose to life-tap in KQs?
I burn my sp really fast but I only do it in between fights when safe
and I'd generally either shroom afterwards if not moving, stone/pot mobs coming up, or just leave it while traveling around the map.

being a cleric is hard
you have to heal, run, and rev all at the same time x(
I hate it when people spam rev while they're dead when clerics are busy trying to keep the tank alive.
People in Robo are extremely rude also. They flame clerics for not rev'ing and focusing on them when they are busy rev'ing others and there's a 30 second cooldown on revive or busy running.

not sure if this is getting off topic or not but...
I always feel bad for using life tap when partying with a cleric
with a cleric grinding is so easy but again I burn SP really fast
I generally don't notice it until I'm a bit below half or really low thus I life-tap every 15 seconds until I'm back up to 80%
I feel bad that the cleric has to turn around and heal me that every 15 seconds even though its during a break time from grinding

wasnt there another spider KQ thread about mages aggro'ing, running away, and the stopping to use lifetap? That is lol xp

one would think that by the time of Gold Hill people should know how to be decent citizens of Fiesta and know how to play their class.

(so many nubbies in LS last night D: they were just KSing everything and everybody. I told them to stop and their reply was "No. I need it." :goaway:)

no pls, i'm gonna have a hard enough time with the archer job change in two more levels:cries:

I'm gonna quote this too because I have just recently finished the job change and it is horrible as a cleric. At least all the other classes have some sort of AOE skill. With a cleric since you can't heal them you can't do anything but attack each separate enemy until they are all attacking you!! So yeah I definitely agree everyone should have to go through that because until you experience that you have no idea what its like.

And as a side note:
I don't think it is fair to use life-tap all the time as a mage for a cleric to heal you. So apparently a cleric has to use stones all the time just to keep your lives up when a mage could just use a stone him/herself for the same purpose?? Doesn't seem very fair to me. Every once in awhile is ok, but a mage should at least be considerate enough to use a stone every once in awhile instead of always relying on the cleric 'to take care of him/her'.
When someone will completely rely on someone else(such as a cleric) to keep them alive and will complain when they die because they are too proud to use a stone themselves and rather die and blame it on someone else then I don't believe that is a very good player... And it seems with the mage you encounters that seems to be the case:goaway:

I guess talking about how evil life-tap is for Clerics isn't so OT because it was also raged about in OP :nahnah:


From the Mage point of view though, I guess that as long as you let the Cleric know and not abuse the skill, that life-tap isn't that bad. Even before they buffed-up Heal's potential by making it enpowerable, the off-set between the small amount of SP the Cleric uses for the large amount of HP it restores + the potential benefit to party-dynamics and working for a party that works well together is a good thing.


Even consider the mechanics of stone usage. Clerics and Fighters have a much larger capacity for both kinds of stones than Archers and Mages. To offset the Mage's lower SP stone count, he/she can life-tap with the Cleric's consent. The Cleric thus sacrifices SP stones of their own/ time shrooming, but this is offset by the low amount of HP stones the Cleric uses so it balances out anyway.


Then again, most if not all complaints about life-tap comes about Mages who use it unexpectedly/ at stupid times, so I guess the point is moot >__>

I've actually used a good deal of HP stones while being a cleric because if the mage is tanking then its necessary because the mage is getting hit so much that you need to constantly heal them and don't have enough time to heal yourself. And because of the range of most mage skills, they can't AOE everyone even at the higher levels(depends on how many enemies you are trying to kill at the same time) so to actually do your job as a cleric you actually do need to use a lot of HP stones suprisingly.

I guess my point is(speaking as a cleric) why can't mages specifically use stones when necessary or at least most of the time. When I party with those kinds of mages then I think they are the best ones out there because they can handle themselves when necessary and don't need to completely rely on the cleric to take care of them. Of course like I said there may be points where the cleric has to heal the mage constantly but sometimes depending on the enemies that might not be enough and the mage might have to use a pot or stone to help out a bit.

ok yes i do sometimes shout heal but thats generally cause im a tank and might be in a bad party :| which in all honesty does happen, plus its only with large amounts of mobs i happily stone :D
So yea sometimes clerics arnt what they should be, but from the sounds of it you did great :nahnah: