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whereisthelove 08-26-2007 04:07 PM

an str/spr build fighter would do massive damage + crits but low defense and low hp... with a +9 2 handed axe :D

Wolfie 08-26-2007 04:16 PM

thats what extenders scrolls pots stones and clerics are for

sparky 08-26-2007 04:27 PM

not really...a archer and mage still out damages figthers no matter what...mainly cause of DoT and mage's magical attack


haha i even seen clerics out damage (got aggroed by a monster who was kicked by a fighter) fighters.

whereisthelove 08-26-2007 05:53 PM

can hardly believe =/

Icy 08-26-2007 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by whereisthelove (Post 15250)
an str/spr build fighter would do massive damage + crits but low defense and low hp... with a +9 2 handed axe :D

The damage and defense aren't in the build, it's all about the equip.

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haha i even seen clerics out damage (got aggroed by a monster who was kicked by a fighter) fighters.
And this too.

Kyite 08-26-2007 07:24 PM

See I noticed the same thing.... I was planning on going full end, but 1 hand swords are SHIT, right so your going to want a 2 hand sword for PvP 1 hander is probaly best for PvE, but anyways if I was going to use a 2hand sword or 2 hand axe, I won't be using the END to the fullest, consitering it increases sheild. Could anyone help me out? I heard that your stats you add don't do much unless you pump one thing, so if I pump end alot will I still be doing good damage? or is there any alternatives?

rokaraged 08-26-2007 08:17 PM

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Originally Posted by sparky (Post 15253)
not really...a archer and mage still out damages figthers no matter what...mainly cause of DoT and mage's magical attack


haha i even seen clerics out damage (got aggroed by a monster who was kicked by a fighter) fighters.

Show me that cleric and archer that out damaged a fighter and i'll prove otherwise.

Mages will always out damage everything, but i doubt an archer and ESPECIALLY a cleric can out damage a fighter especially on even terms.

Clerics and archers may have more base damage but when a axe weilder spams attack skills (which they have ALOT more then the other 2 classes) nothing stands for long...except for clerics.



As for the spr topic,
U get about i think around 13% crit with 100 points of spr. Not that much eh. Well you STOP getting 0.2% crit at some point with spr and remain with 0.1% a point

Spr fighters were excellent choices in CB. ESPECIALLY with an axe. Combine atleast 5% crit rating with an axe and the tux (which also increased crit DRAMATICALLY) they hit HARD and often with crits.

There was literally NO POINT in rasing end in Cb except if u were using a shield because u only got 5hp a point and defense increases in cb2 were too insignicant. You were probably better raising spr anyway to compensate for the fighters REDICOUSLY LOW magic def and the extra spr helped continue with attack skill spamming.

Icy 08-26-2007 08:26 PM

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Originally Posted by rokaraged (Post 15306)
You were probably better raising spr anyway to compensate for the fighters REDICOUSLY LOW magic def and the extra spr helped continue with attack skill spamming.

Like defense bonus from END, magic def from SPR is tiny =x
It might not be worth putting more than 25 points in SPR since the increment becomes 0.1% after that (you'll have +5% crit by then). Plus, you can get up to +5% crit from licenses, but that's after you've levelled up quite a bit =)

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Originally Posted by rokaraged (Post 15306)
There was literally NO POINT in rasing end in Cb except if u were using a shield because u only got 5hp a point and defense increases in cb2 were too insignicant.

Yep yep fighters usually get 4 base END every level-up so they're not short on HP. And I think you get just 0.1% block for every +END.

whereisthelove 08-26-2007 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Icy (Post 15287)
The damage and defense aren't in the build, it's all about the equip.

fighter with good items and bad build like full int against another fighter str/spr with normal stuff... u u saying the full int fighter will do better? =/

Icy 08-26-2007 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by whereisthelove (Post 15351)
fighter with good items and bad build like full int against another fighter str/spr with normal stuff... u u saying the full int fighter will do better? =/

If both are exactly the same except for the distribution of their stats bonuses, it's a perfectly fair match I'd say. The one who spams his skills better wins. ;)

A full int fighter is equivalent to one who hasn't used any of his stat bonuses. Mmm imagine how he'd fare against...
Full STR: will do less damage to the opponent but to what extent? Puny +dmg bonuses is nothing compared to the *good* weapons' damage.
Full END: Opponent has a little more HP and a bit more block%, so what =/ If both use vita scrolls, the difference in HP becomes even less significant. The block% means our full INT fighter will take a few more hits than the opponent, but we have enough HP for that =D
Full SPR: Opponent will definitely out-damage you, but not enough to kill you with any less difficulty. Without crit% from putting points in SPR you can boost your crit% by a lot by other means.
Since both sides will be using stones frequently, a little more damage taken doesn't hurt too much.


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