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kaylaspot1996 01-15-2010 11:39 PM

ooooh greaaat, now i deff know who those pesky legals are now :hulksmash:

secbro20 01-15-2010 11:55 PM

Ok. So I'm voting blaaahs. I have no other leads at this point. Humans last stand again. So we gotta vote together.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-15-2010 11:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 399066)
That's still how the game was played for the last 17 or so rounds.

Your insistence that actions mean nothing is a bit suspicious for me. i'll unite my vote with secbro on this one.

When did I even say instance means nothing? Since you like to quote, find a quote by me that even says that.

I am saying that actions can be fake and therefore cannot count as "evidence", and anything we "conclude" from it is a "guess", not by following "evidence". Like Esen said, they can be interpreted incorrectly. So when you said there is "some sort of evidence" in players' actions, you're wrong. You can never be sure about something being "evidence" in this game unless there is a special human role.

My main point is: It's pointless asking for evidence. "Give me evidence of me being a legal" is a pointless defense and isn't going to help you.

But I'm not gonna argue further since I've been repeating myself.

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Anyway, if humans still want to win, trust me, I'm human. Vote me out and it's over.

I also think Jik or Sec are legals. I'm not sure about Esen, but Esen is always innocent whether she's legal or not :cries: But yeah. I want to vote secbro.

But I'm not going to throw my vote in like that... because I don't know what the other humans are voting for, besides me.

secbro20 01-15-2010 11:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 399131)
When did I even say instance means nothing? Since you like to quote, find a quote by me that even says that.

I am saying that actions can be fake and therefore cannot count as "evidence", and anything we "conclude" from it is a "guess", not by following "evidence". Like Esen said, they can be interpreted incorrectly. So when you said there is "some sort of evidence" in players' actions, you're wrong. You can never be sure about something being "evidence" in this game unless there is a special human role.

My main point is: It's pointless asking for evidence. "Give me evidence of me being a legal" is a pointless defense and isn't going to help you.

But I'm not gonna argue further since I've been repeating myself.

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Anyway, if humans still want to win, trust me, I'm human. Vote me out and it's over.

I also think Jik or Sec are legals. I'm not sure about Esen, but Esen is always innocent whether she's legal or not :cries: But yeah. I want to vote secbro.

But I'm not going to throw my vote in like that... because I don't know what the other humans are voting for, besides me.

I'm human...and you say your human, but we can't trust anyone since anyone can say that and their isn't a role to catch any slip ups. This game is chance. And I'm going for you. Sorry blaaahs. if your human, I was wrong. But at this point, gotta take a chance.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-16-2010 12:09 AM

You know what? You guys may be suspicious of me being legal, but I'm going to put this out anyway, it's up to you to decide. But I'm voting for secbro. Because"

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 398377)
Can we please organize ourselves and vote for someone? I don't want what happened last round to happen again.

I'm still voting for Triumph. Not sure who else to be suspicious about.

Quote:

Originally Posted by secbro19 (Post 398379)
Yeah. We need to organize. Otherwise, its game over....I side with Ralath. I'm voting triumph. At least two votes will be together.

He sides with Ralath here. Several posts down the track, he suddenly says:

Quote:

Originally Posted by secbro19 (Post 398555)
Nuuuu! Not me! I'm voting Ralath next day, if the legals leave me alive.

:cries:

He's voting for Ralath! Feel free to click the post to check the threads. I looked through it, and I don't even think Ralath really said/did anything for secbro to vote for Ralath. It was a really random jump. From siding with him, to voting him based on... nothing. No posts.


Quote:

Originally Posted by secbro19 (Post 398686)
So I'm so dead then X.x. Nothing I can say it seems to say I'M HUMAN! :cries:

I'm voting for Ralath. (or maybe you blaaahs, since your so keen on killing me!)

If I die, I'm pretty sure who the legals are, at least 2 of them....

Blaaaahs and Ralath seem too connected to me at this point. Both agreed on Triumph (and he was human) and now both are agreeing to kill me, and I'm human. They must go. Voting Ralath. Humans should vote with me, at least our votes will be united.

He said he was gonna vote for Triumph too.
I have looked at posts between me and Ralath prior to this post, and I believe we hardly interacted. Actually, I don't know if we even spoke to each other in this thread. I'll go and double check, but I don't think we made any important posts to each other regarding this game.

Quote:

Originally Posted by secbro19 (Post 398497)
UPDATE PLEASE! I want to know if Im dead before I go to bed.

And and.. he's so eager for thread update! That's a sign of a legal... HAHA jk.




Well .. I'm just guessing, I hope I'm right. So.. I'm voting for secbro because:

- He sides with Ralath one day and then randomly votes for Ralath, when Ralath didn't even say a single thing.
- He said Ralath and I are connected when we didn't even talk to each other.
- He said Ralath and I are uniting votes together to kill Triumph when he said he was gonna vote Triumph too.

Edit: forgot to say, yeah, like Esen said.. he might be using Ralath as a sacrifice to gain trust.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-16-2010 12:19 AM

One more thing about this post, Ralath said nothing about voting for secbro before hand. He only said something like *votes secbro* afterwards. I'm not sure why secbro thought Ralath would vote for him too, since Ralath didn't say anything. Unless they planned it together beforehand.

secbro20 01-16-2010 12:27 AM

Nothing less from blaaaahs to try and prove that I'm a legal. I did side with Ralath, but I had the suspicion that he might be a legal. And so when he got mostly everyone to side with him, I knew he was a legal. He suggested triumph, and voted for him since the first day, and when he turned out to be human, I pegged Ralath as a legal.

I'm gonna go look back at the votes from previous days to try and see if blaaah really is human. Right now, its only on a gut suspicion and nothing else.

EDIT: I wish lirange kept all the votes for previous rounds up. X.X If I could see who voted (if any) for Ralath, especially early on, those people probably aren't legals.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-16-2010 12:34 AM

http://www.fiestafan.com/forums/show...7&postcount=89

Helion, but he's dead already. LOL.

Triumph dead day.. I can't remember the votes.. but I recalled not doing it because it would have been pointless since legals could easily lie together.. or something.. there was a reason why I was lazy to make a vote count though. Just like how there was no point doing a vote count for Ralath dead day.

Lirange 01-16-2010 12:40 AM

Would you guys like for the vote tallys to be kept up next time?

Blaaaaaaaah 01-16-2010 12:46 AM

Nah. I think it's just our loss that we didn't do a vote tally.


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