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Manzcar 07-03-2009 10:44 PM

-hugz Hessah- it's okay i still wubz uz :laugh: :laugh:

Ivramire 07-03-2009 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 358451)
Sorry I didnt vote...

And Goodbye everyone! I think I'm gonna die now http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m118.gif


:cutielove:

Hessah 07-03-2009 10:45 PM

Or should I say Hello to all the ghost out there? xD

Manzcar 07-03-2009 10:47 PM

YES AND WE'VE BEEN WAITING FOR YOU :devil: :cheeky: :hulksmash:

Hessah 07-03-2009 11:07 PM

I'm surprised Destrus didnt impose as Phino at least he could've lived longer...

Leesa 07-03-2009 11:49 PM

Uhm.. We're dead XD

cillia 07-04-2009 12:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leesa (Post 358485)
Uhm.. We're dead XD

i thought i already stated that D:

Leesa 07-04-2009 03:15 AM

ST makes his kill, either 2 humans no phino or 1 human 1 phino... chances of both humans or human and phino making the same vote is like.. kindaaa low, ST most likely wins.. blah blah

Ralath 07-04-2009 05:09 AM

Nooo not necessarily!!!!

Geez. Leesa is a Negative Nancy.

Dislike.

Leesa 07-04-2009 05:22 AM

Lol xD

Lirange 07-04-2009 09:37 AM

UPDATED!

Leesa 07-04-2009 09:45 AM

Damn... ST was able to make it this far @_@ GO GO HUMANS!! By now ST must be really scared.. POSTS WILL BE MUCH DIFFERENT, WATCH FOR IT!!

We have a 50-50 chance of winning

Well, we most likely have a 50 50 chance, unless like.. we all die LOL Person A votes for Person B, Person B votes for Person C, and Person C votes for Person A...

if that happens and everyone dies whos the winner? xD

Lirange 07-04-2009 09:50 AM

If they all get one vote, they all diex]
And i am the winner!! :devil::devil::devil:
Actually it'd be a draw -.-

but i hope it doesn't come to that. At least 2 people have to vote for same peerson, that will decide if senior torturer or the humans win.

Ralath 07-04-2009 10:19 AM

o_o

Ooh wow. Can't say I didn't really expect that. Hessah even predicted her death. Haha...

ST:

Ok. My immediate gut feeling is Esen. Vasu's posts seem more trustworthy to me. And Esen has shown that she's a really good Legel... *o* But maybe Vasu is the ST and AND THEN WE'LL BE SCREWED!!! But Esen has seemed more like ST to me because her posts seem like she's willing to kill off anybody... whereas Vasu seemed like he wanted to kill of the Legels more... AHh;aklsjdla

Omgg... Soooo nervous. This is a do or die decision. @___@_@_@_@_@





I'm voting for Esen.

Hessah 07-04-2009 10:28 AM

GHOST PARTY YEAH!

cillia 07-04-2009 10:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 358618)
GHOST PARTY YEAH!

woot!


<('0'<) <('o')> (>'0')>

Ivramire 07-04-2009 11:13 AM

Bad move ST >.<

Manzcar 07-04-2009 12:29 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivramire (Post 358630)
Bad move ST >.<

The decision was most logical. Since Hessah already admitted her role it would be obvious who the ST and the Phino were to the last human.

Human votes ST
ST votes Human
Phino votes Phino

winner = Phino

Blaaaaaaaah 07-04-2009 12:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manzcar (Post 358636)
The decision was most logical. Since Hessah already admitted her role it would be obvious who the ST and the Phino were to the last human.

Human votes ST
ST votes Human
Phino votes Phino

winner = Phino

But by definition, Phino needs to be voted out by humans so.. D:

Ralath 07-04-2009 12:56 PM

Phino needs to be lynched.

Personally, I don't think 1 vote in that scenario does anything except nothing happens.

Manzcar 07-04-2009 01:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 358637)
But by definition, Phino needs to be voted out by humans so.. D:

lynched during the day

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 358641)
Phino needs to be lynched.

Personally, I don't think 1 vote in that scenario does anything except nothing happens.

actually if it is a tie all die meaning phino is killed during day lynch meaning phino wins

Blaaaaaaaah 07-04-2009 02:01 PM

But if more than 2 people are dying, the hat gets to pick the 2 people that actually die since it's max 2 people dying at a time. Soo.. there's a chance phino doesn't win.

Hessah 07-04-2009 02:03 PM

You guys should've killed me in day 1 then we wouldnt have this problem!

Ivramire 07-04-2009 02:05 PM

I still think it would have been more viable for the ST to kill a Human D:


But whatever, doesn't really matter now.


@ manz's situation: There seriously needs to be a clarification of who wins in that scenario. I would think it'd be a loss for everyone since it's a cop-out. Depends on the current Teva's ruling I guess.

Ralath 07-04-2009 02:13 PM

I think there needs to be a ruling on what happens in terms of a tie.

I think the current way that ties work is flawed. To let the hat--luck--choose goes against the whole premise of the game. Mafia shouldn't be a game based upon luck. It should be a game based upon strategy.

I know I've said this several times but I think a tie, when not a majority=nothing happens. Realistically, it's hard to lynch someone when a majority of the town is against that. And I think it's appropriate to punish the humans (or save the humans) if they can't find someone that they can agree on.

The only time that two people should die at once is when there are an even number of players and the votes are split EXACTLy down the middle, as in the case of Manz and Jikanu (where there were 8 players and each had 4 votes each).

I don't know what other Mafia games do. But maybe someone can do some research on that?

Manzcar 07-04-2009 02:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Blaaaaaaaah (Post 358649)
But if more than 2 people are dying, the hat gets to pick the 2 people that actually die since it's max 2 people dying at a time. Soo.. there's a chance phino doesn't win.

forgot about that.

I will do some research as Ralath suggests to see if I can find out what happens when phino or ST exists at endgame.

@Ralath you in next game??

Destrus 07-04-2009 06:50 PM

i wonder if st had the same human kill list as us...

Lirange 07-04-2009 08:01 PM

If were were playing a 12 person game, and these were the results for votes
and one person got 3 votes, and that was the highest, and all the other votes were spread out, we wouldn't say "nothing happened, no one had the majority of votes"

Ralath 07-04-2009 08:08 PM

^But I think it's silly that someone will only 3 votes out of 12 gets lynched. I don't think that makes a lot of sense, realistically or in game.

Lirange 07-04-2009 08:11 PM

yea the chances of that is low, but if it were to happened, you say we should just do nothing?

But if you really think its unfair to do that, then if everyone gets 1 votes, i will make it so nothing happens.

kirbysprite 07-04-2009 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 358726)
^But I think it's silly that someone will only 3 votes out of 12 gets lynched. I don't think that makes a lot of sense, realistically or in game.

Yeah, I like that rule. Majority of the votes is more than half of the people voting. So 3 votes out of 12 is not majority, 7 votes out of 12 is majority. Nice... Not if it's tied, then no one dies... That's what I say...Sounds good...

Esen 07-04-2009 09:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ralath (Post 358616)
Ok. My immediate gut feeling is Esen. Vasu's posts seem more trustworthy to me. And Esen has shown that she's a really good Legel... *o* But maybe Vasu is the ST and AND THEN WE'LL BE SCREWED!!! But Esen has seemed more like ST to me because her posts seem like she's willing to kill off anybody... whereas Vasu seemed like he wanted to kill of the Legels more... AHh;aklsjdla

Omgg... Soooo nervous. This is a do or die decision. @___@_@_@_@_@

I'm voting for Esen.

I apologize if it seems like I'm willing to kill anyone, but it's really because normally I don't know who to vote for. o-o

Also, just because Vasu seems to strongly want to kill the Legals doesn't make him not the ST since the Legals can ruin the ST plans of winning. Same goes for you. Both Manzcar and Jikanu dying works in the ST's favor, no matter what role they have. Although, you did try to defend Manzcar...

Anyways, I'm waiting for Vasu's post(s) to decide who to vote for.

I'm not sure which of you two to trust. Vasu seemed to have trust in Ralath and Ralath seems to have trust in Vasu. The ST can take advantage of that.

But one of you is definitely not human.

Manzcar 07-04-2009 09:51 PM

My findings are that games with rules that more than half must vitote for one person have three to four week day cycles. Also ihave seen where ties are allowed for humans and third parties ie phino and humans left. Oops imeant non killing third parties.

Also if votes were tied a revote would happen for those not voting for one of the tied parties. If a it was a complete tie what happened to jikanu and myself the person who reached the number first would be voted off.

Not sure this helps but ehh

Lirange 07-05-2009 03:48 AM

remember to turn in votes

Esen 07-05-2009 04:12 AM

You know... Since I don't think I can get Ralath to change his vote, I realize the only person I can vote for is Ralath because Vasu will vote for either me or Ralath.

I have no idea who Vasu will side with though.

In any case, I have a question (Kirby actually asked this first and I think no one answered). Since ST doesn't kill this night, do we skip that?

Ralath 07-05-2009 04:15 AM

@_@@_@__@@_ I dunno what to do. x.x

I can't decide if I should change my vote to Vasu. My gut says Esen. But... Vasu hasn't really posted as much as Esen so it's harder to get a read on him... @_@_@_@

Lirange 07-05-2009 04:16 AM

hmmm
since its so little people left, i'll let st kill so that this game can end and we can go on unto the next round

Esen 07-05-2009 04:26 AM

Okay.

New question.

If it came down to human vs ST in the daytime, does the ST win? Just like it would be with the Legals?

Lirange 07-05-2009 04:28 AM

Yep

Blaaaaaaaah 07-05-2009 04:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 358823)
hmmm
since its so little people left, i'll let st kill so that this game can end and we can go on unto the next round

Actually, shouldn't you be skipping the night where nothing happens, so humans get to vote twice in a row before ST gets to kill again?

ST isn't meant to kill every night, so humans are supposed to get in more votes before ST can kill again...


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