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secbro20 01-28-2010 03:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Destrus (Post 401029)
i bet 2 posts sec voted for himself

No, I voted for Bdex.

Destrus 01-28-2010 03:36 AM

dammit. i lose two posts. good thing they're MoS posts so they don't count :D

secbro20 01-28-2010 03:38 AM

I think they are gonna mind drain tonight, so no one is gonna die. This could be very bad.....

Hessah 01-28-2010 03:39 AM

I totally forgot about mind drain..

Lirange 01-28-2010 03:43 AM

Lol, I forgot about mind drain to until I bought it up in the mechanics thread. I don't think you can mind drain though, you have to have at least on legal left and 6+humans. Unless blahs decides to make it different or whatever. I forgot what the exact requirements were before.

01-28-2010 03:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lirange (Post 401043)
Lol, I forgot about mind drain to until I bought it up in the mechanics thread. I don't think you can mind drain though, you have to have at least on legal left and 6+humans. Unless blahs decides to make it different or whatever. I forgot what the exact requirements were before.

Previous rounds were 5 humans and 1 legal, so mind drain can't be in effect since we have 2 legals. Even if it were 6 players and 1 legal, we couldn't get it yet.

secbro20 01-28-2010 03:47 AM

Yeah, your right Helion. Just checked the role thread. Phew, thats good.

01-28-2010 03:49 AM

Let's hope Julia guesses well as to the legals' intentions. :ninja:

Blaaaaaaaah 01-28-2010 06:14 AM

Updated!

01-28-2010 06:32 AM

*%@$&*%!#

OK, we have no safety net left, 5 of us, 2 of them. We really need to choose well today.

Phantom Badger 01-28-2010 06:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 400987)

D: Oh well...

Wow, I thought Ivra was the Healer tbh...

Blaaaaaaaah 01-28-2010 07:08 AM

The new rule is that you can mind drain if there is 1 legal and 6 humans left.

The old rule was that you can mind drain if there was 1 legal and 5 humans left.

The new rule was made after this round has started. So I guess I'll stick to old rules and allow mind drain if there are 5 humans left and 1 legal.

Does that sound fair?

01-28-2010 07:17 AM

Alright, I've gone through everything and decided that my picks for the 2 legals are Destrus and Frozenwind, with maybe Cillia as a possibility as well. I have been blocked this round and will die tonight when legals go again, so I want to take one last legal with me. That being said, my vote is for
DESTRUS
.

Ivramire 01-28-2010 07:36 AM

I was hoping they'd kill me this round -.-

01-28-2010 07:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ivramire (Post 401095)
I was hoping they'd kill me this round -.-

I actually thought you were Julia - I was hoping Julia would protect themselves last night, since they haven't tried to kill me when they could block me. Still, if we can kill a legal this time, then that leaves the legal with 3 choices:
1) Kill me, lose the mind drain
2) Mind drain me
3) Mind drain someone else, leaving me to investigate without a block

any of the 3 has good and bad points. I hope we get our legal and force the last bastard to make his/her choice.

:laugh::laugh::laugh:

Destrus 01-28-2010 10:17 AM

why me exactly? i'm leaning towards triumph and frozen

Manzcar 01-28-2010 12:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helion (Post 401048)
Previous rounds were 5 humans and 1 legal, so mind drain can't be in effect since we have 2 legals. Even if it were 6 players and 1 legal, we couldn't get it yet.

Going back over the thread I have noticed something that is quite disturbing. If there is a roleblocker that means there are still three legals alive. That is if there really is a roleblocker.

But that would mean that Helion has been lying about being blocked and has only given us the legals he knew to be legals because he is a legal.

So Helion the way I see it is that we have a real problem here. If we don’t guess correctly right now the legals win because there are only 7 people left with three legals or your lying and there are only two legals left and you are one of them and if there are three legals left they will vote for the same human any way and we lose.

So with that in mind I believe you have played a wonderful gambit and had everyone fooled so I am voting Helion. Besides the above post you put up keeps referring to the legals as “WE”.

VOTING HELION

01-28-2010 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manzcar (Post 401116)
Going back over the thread I have noticed something that is quite disturbing. If there is a roleblocker that means there are still three legals alive. That is if there really is a roleblocker.

But that would mean that Helion has been lying about being blocked and has only given us the legals he knew to be legals because he is a legal.

So Helion the way I see it is that we have a real problem here. If we don’t guess correctly right now the legals win because there are only 7 people left with three legals or your lying and there are only two legals left and you are one of them and if there are three legals left they will vote for the same human any way and we lose.

So with that in mind I believe you have played a wonderful gambit and had everyone fooled so I am voting Helion. Besides the above post you put up keeps referring to the legals as “WE”.

VOTING HELION

WTF????? Not sure where you are pulling this from, but I'm thinking it smells a lot like what I flushed a few minutes ago. I am Robin, as I have been the entire game. I haven't seen the legals try to kill a legal in the night phase before - I'm not sure even Blaaahs is psycho enough to try that. There are only 2 legals left - 1 of the 2 has the additional role of ROBO. In the post about numbers left, "WE" was refering to everyone still playing, not the legals. If you are so GDMFing sure about this, go ahead and vote me out today. My usefulness has finished if we don't get a legal today, because I will be killed in the night phase because the legals can't block me 2 nights in a row. I will be vindicated when I am dead, and you will be shown to be a fool.

Manzcar 01-28-2010 01:07 PM

nope misunderstood an answer to a question i asked Teva.

So now I must go back to the drawing board.

Manzcar 01-28-2010 01:10 PM

See i asked if robo was listed as a legal or unknown and was told unknown but apparently robo is listed as both so everyone disregard my previous post as the logic i used to unearth the evidence is acutal Cr@p.

so I will not be voting Helion.

now back to our originally scheduled program.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-28-2010 01:29 PM

LOL Yeah sorry I didn't explain properly. I thought Robo was like a special role of a legal, so I included it in the Legal count and also the Unknown role count (figured it's okay to say it since we all know the roles now).

secbro20 01-28-2010 02:10 PM

Sorry guys! I did my best! I thought they might go after me, but I could not protect myself as I already had earlier in the game.

Oh and sorry Lirange! I noticed your posted about how I should have protected you that night (you were right) only after you had already been killed :/, but that would have revealed my presents earlier than the potion.

Good luck remaining humans!!

Manzcar 01-28-2010 02:42 PM

Elion who do you suspect and do you have any positives on who is human?

Phantom Badger 01-28-2010 03:09 PM

Hai Secbro :D
This looks like it's gunna be a close one...

secbro20 01-28-2010 07:39 PM

Yeah, its gonna be close.

01-28-2010 07:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manzcar (Post 401124)
Elion who do you suspect and do you have any positives on who is human?

No positives, just an educated guess looking at the votes for Leesa and Ralath, I think Destrus and Frozenwind are most likely, with Cillia a third choice. I still think you and Ivra are human.

Destrus 01-28-2010 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manzcar (Post 401116)
Going back over the thread I have noticed something that is quite disturbing. If there is a roleblocker that means there are still three legals alive. That is if there really is a roleblocker.

But that would mean that Helion has been lying about being blocked and has only given us the legals he knew to be legals because he is a legal.

So Helion the way I see it is that we have a real problem here. If we don’t guess correctly right now the legals win because there are only 7 people left with three legals or your lying and there are only two legals left and you are one of them and if there are three legals left they will vote for the same human any way and we lose.

So with that in mind I believe you have played a wonderful gambit and had everyone fooled so I am voting Helion. Besides the above post you put up keeps referring to the legals as “WE”.

VOTING HELION

i still don't get how this made sense. if helion was a legal why would he give up 2 so easily. bdex maybe because he was already suspected but the first one i don't think we suspected really. at least i don't remember anyone pointing the finger at hess.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helion (Post 401138)
No positives, just an educated guess looking at the votes for Leesa and Ralath, I think Destrus and Frozenwind are most likely, with Cillia a third choice. I still think you and Ivra are human.

i'm still suspecting triumph and frozen though manz's post was making a bit suspicious. when i was first reading it it kinda made me think he got something that he thought he could use to get rid of you during the day and rushed to throw together a story to back it up. that seems like too big of a mistake for manz to make though.

and i wouldn't use the voting for leesa thing to try to come up with a suspect. i don't know about the others but i wa still kinda caught up in trying not to scatter votes too much xD. maybe i can see how you might come to that conclusion with the voting for ralath but honestly, last time he used the big bold bright text against me he was a legal so i figured he'd probably be trying that same thing again.

01-28-2010 11:09 PM

OK, Destrus, I will believe you for now, changing my vote to
Frozenwind
.

Humans, lets unite and see if we can get this one!!!

Blaaaaaaaah 01-28-2010 11:39 PM

Moar moar votes!

Hessah 01-28-2010 11:40 PM

Moar moar votes!

Hurry up I'm bored of being dead..

01-28-2010 11:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 401177)
Moar moar votes!

Hurry up I'm bored of being dead..

Maybe if you tell us who your evil partners are, we can end this thing and get on to the next game.....

:laugh:

Hessah 01-29-2010 12:05 AM

I would but Blah wont let me..

01-29-2010 12:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hessah (Post 401184)
I would but Blah wont let me..

You can whisper it to me, she will never know......:devil:

Destrus 01-29-2010 01:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Helion (Post 401173)
OK, Destrus, I will believe you for now, changing my vote to
Frozenwind
.

Humans, lets unite and see if we can get this one!!!

ok, i'll go with you on frozen

Blaaaaaaaah 01-29-2010 01:22 AM

Only a little less then 5 hours to vote!

01-29-2010 06:26 AM

OK, Teva, we are waiting on you now - 12 minutes late. :laugh:

Phantom Badger 01-29-2010 06:32 AM

Taking out Frozen it seems...

This is interesting

Blaaaaaaaah 01-29-2010 06:41 AM

Oh shi I forgot the new day starts in my evening not morning LOL I'll go update now.

Blaaaaaaaah 01-29-2010 06:45 AM

Updated!! :uhoh:

Ralath 01-29-2010 06:46 AM

Q.Q


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