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Hessah 07-03-2009 02:15 PM

Esen... wouldnt it be funny if she turned out to be ST?

So we need to pick between Ralath and Destrus? Since Vasu sounds human, and Esen seems human.. and there's no point in wasting votes on me....

As someone said.. the legal is often the closest one to the victim....

Ralath 07-03-2009 02:18 PM

Ok. I'm almost positive that Hessah is a Legel.


Look how SHE'S TURNED IT ON ME!!!

I'm a human. I voted for Jikanu! I was the one that said Manz was probably a human.

What did Hessah do???

VOTE FOR MANZ.

NOT VOTE FOR JIKANU.

PRETEND TO BE PHINO.

ACCUSE HUMAN OF BEING LEGEL AND TRY TO KILL THEM OFF.




Hessah is DANGEROUS

Ivramire 07-03-2009 02:23 PM

Would hate if it happened in a game again though >:(

Lirange 07-03-2009 02:28 PM

devious
http://www.laymark.com/i/o/113.gif

Hessah 07-03-2009 02:29 PM

Nah you and Destrus are much more DANGEROUS

Actually I dunno how Destrus is dangerous.. only you made him sound dangerous

I say Ralath sounds fishy...

Ralath 07-03-2009 03:17 PM

Ok.

The votes for Manzcar fall like this:

Jikanu (because obviously, he isn't voting for himself)
Hessah (because you said)
Leesa (she said, and she's a human so she prob hasn't lied)
Destrus (he said)

In this type of close situation, there is no possible way that the Legel would NOT vote for Manzcar. Therefore, the Legel has to be one of the persons that voted for Manz.

Since Jikanu and Leesa are dead, the only two people left are Hessah and Destrus.

I don't think it needs to be said that Hessah is playing mind games with us. Obvi. She's clearly NOT a Human. (Either Phino or Legel. Or maybe even ST.)

Since we don't know what she is, she's kind of wild card. Whatever.

Destrus is the only other viable person in this scenario and its hard to see him being Phino. Therefore, I think he's safe to vote off (and hope he's either ST or LegeL).

Ralath 07-03-2009 03:19 PM

Notice how Hessah can only say, "Ralath sounds fishy."

WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN?!?! She can't provide any evidence or anything at all. The only thing she can say is that IIIIIII sound fishy.

Meanwhile, I've presented a case with solid evidence backed by what's happened and what the votes are.

You can choose to side with Hessah and pick the side that has NO EVIDENCE and NO SUPPORT but "sounds" nice.

Or you can choose my side with solid evidence and solid support.




If you don't want to vote for Destrus, then vote for Hessah. IMO, those are the only two possible choices.

Manzcar 07-03-2009 03:38 PM

:laugh:

Rapath got some mess and calmed down

Manzcar 07-03-2009 03:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Manzcar (Post 358381)
:laugh:

Rapath got some mess and calmed down

Opps stupid iPhone Ralath

Destrus 07-03-2009 03:45 PM

every time i look at this thread i'm about to be killed ._.

honestly hess and ralath are who i'm looking at.
i almost feel like ralath's "panic" is either him just trying to get rid of whoever he thinks might be a threat to him or him seeing this as a good opportunity to get people to go after him and not seem too suspicious.

or it could just really be panic xD.

also my reasons for voting for manz:
first i'll admit, i was kinda hoping for a tie because i was suspicious of both of them. yes, it's unfortunate that manz did turn out to be human but he did seem suspicious to me.

i know someone might mention him swearing and that i should have taken that as evidence of him being human (i know someone did) but i find that swearing like that in this game is really just wrong and shouldn't be done so i have to ignore it when someone does that. people will take it as truth because if you're lieing liek that it would just be horrible. i was thinking about asking lirange to make it a rule that you can't do something like that and i'm glad manz said that's the only time he's going to do that.

Ralath 07-03-2009 03:49 PM

I'm not panicked.

Because this game, which has been so muddled the entire, has been falling into place.

And FINALLY, you can use logic--and thinking--to get to the bottom of this. And now, the choice is fairly clear.

So of course, I'm going to take this opportunity to make sure that we catch the Legel. Because this might be the only chance we get!!!

Destrus 07-03-2009 03:59 PM

here's how i'm thinking:
ralath and hess- i think one is st and one is phino

vasu and esen i've been having a hard time deciding on but i kinda feel like vasu might be the legal but i don't have a good history of picking out the legals. so for me if i want the lowest chance of voting out the other human i should go for ralath or hess. i think i'll vote ralath.

Ralath 07-03-2009 04:06 PM

...WHYYYYY would you shoot yourself in the foot by killing me?

I have been doing nothing but trying to help us (humans) win the game.

If you kill me, the humans (human), will have NO chance winning. Game over.

Even if you were deciding between me or Hessah, why would you pick me over Hessah? Compare our voting record! CLEARLY, Hessah is NOT the human. She's claimed to be the Phino for one. If Hessah were a human, that would be trying to screw us up. She is 100% NOT human.

Destrus 07-03-2009 04:22 PM

because i think hess might be phino

convince me to vote for someone else then

Lirange 07-03-2009 05:46 PM

unless i receive my last votes in a few hours, you guys will have to wait awhile for an update. Celebrating july 4th today

Manzcar 07-03-2009 06:03 PM

COME ON WHO EVER HASN'T VOTED VOTE I AM EXCITED THIS IS TURNING OUT BETTER THAN I EXPECTED

Jikanu 07-03-2009 06:34 PM

Heh... yeah...

Can i suggest something for later games? Since legels are dark spirits, shouldnt they be able to antagonize the humans from beyond the grave in a nonphysical form? perhaps next time we could allow legels to continue trying to throw humans off track after dying?

probably a stupid idea, but it's a fantasy version of the game, so.. *shrugs*

Lirange 07-03-2009 06:44 PM

what?
so harass dead humans even though they are already dead? o.o
elaborate more

Jikanu 07-03-2009 06:48 PM

Like, for example, perhaps the legels could be able to continue commenting on the game and trying to mislead the humans, or discourage them or something.

Esen 07-03-2009 06:49 PM

I think Ralath has a point... At first, Jikanu had the most votes, but then people switched to Manzcar. Manzcar himself said he had no strong evidence and it was up to us to choose to vote with him or not.

Destrus voted for Manzcar at the start. And he mentions nothing about changing his vote. There's no way for any of the roles to collaborate a plan because they can't PM each other.

But Des could just be human. Ralath might be the ST. Hessah could be the last Legal... And then... Wait, it doesn't make sense for Vasu to be Phino... And if Des or Ralath was the real Phino, maybe they would try to reason to vote for Hessah... But they want to vote for each other... So Hessah is most likely the Phino. I guess then that leaves Destrus as the Legal? Then maybe Ralath is the ST?

But Ralath is doing a lot to stand out... So then Vasu is the ST? But then I guess it could be a plan? Wait.

Actually, I think I'll vote Destrus.

Jikanu voted for Vasu once... I don't think it was a protection plan because Vasu eventually agreed to vote for Jikanu after a few of Manz's post. He could've challenged it.

Jikanu also said he was willing to vote for Ralath or Manz before. Now, it could've been to protect Ralath, but Ralath chose to keep his vote for Jikanu and not switch to Manz. If he had switch, both Legals would be alive and one human dead. Then night comes and another human is dead. Wouldn't that be a better scenario?

If this is true, Destrus is the Legal, Hessah is Phino and either Vasu or Ralalth is the ST.

I guess there's still a chance Hessah is a Legal though... And Destrus might be human... Honestly, looking at Destrus posts, they aren't suspicious.

But I feel positive Ralath is not the Legal. He might be the ST. I don't think Vasu is the Legal either, maybe he's the ST? So that leaves Hessah or Destrus, and Hessah is most likely the Phino.

So yeah, I think I'm voting Destrus.

Destrus 07-03-2009 06:55 PM

i'm getting confused by some logic because i keep going from being human to being legal <_<


also, i think ralath is st and hess phino which for me leaves either you or vasu as the legal.

Lirange 07-03-2009 07:03 PM

do you guys think its okay if i were to update even though hessah hasn't sent in her vote? If she votes, she wont be able to change the outcome if i updated right now.

Jikanu 07-03-2009 07:08 PM

i dont see any problem in it...

Manzcar 07-03-2009 07:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 358415)
i dont see any problem in it...

.

Ralath 07-03-2009 07:20 PM

On the fence about this one.

It is somewhat important to see what the votes are so we can see who voted for who.

But ultimately, it's up to you.





Also, terrible idea about Legels haunting from the game. You're dead. Deal with it.

Lirange 07-03-2009 07:22 PM

updated
in rush

Esen 07-03-2009 07:27 PM

You know, I would be happy if I didn't think there's a good chance the ST will win.

Hessah is obviously Phino, Leesa is human, and I don't understand why would Ralath be lying about voting for Cillia when he's the first one to say it.

I'm still not sure which one is the ST though... *goes through posts*

Jikanu 07-03-2009 07:28 PM

Ralath, i said starting next round. im not talking about myself, as im not likely to be a legel 2 times in a row, but instead im just saying that it would 1. make it more realistic and 2. possibly add a bit of strategy in the game. The legels know for sure who the other legels are, so you have to decide if they're tricking you or using reverse psych.

cillia 07-03-2009 07:29 PM

8D!!!

theres still minimal hope for the humans ;)

Ralath 07-03-2009 07:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 358422)
Ralath, i said starting next round. im not talking about myself, as im not likely to be a legel 2 times in a row, but instead im just saying that it would 1. make it more realistic and 2. possibly add a bit of strategy in the game. The legels know for sure who the other legels are, so you have to decide if they're tricking you or using reverse psych.

I realize you said next round. And I still say it's a lame idea.

1) How is it more realistic? Who said that Legels were evil spirits? For all we know (or don't know), Legels could be evil humans.
2) There is enough strategy in this game already. Clearly, "your" strategy failed (because you died). You shouldn't get 2 bites at the apple.

Ralath 07-03-2009 07:35 PM

EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'M 2 FOR 2 ON THE LEGELS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ralath 07-03-2009 07:36 PM

Can we get a vote tally for Destrus? Thanks

Manzcar 07-03-2009 07:51 PM

did destrus get voted off

Ralath 07-03-2009 08:07 PM

Yes 8D

kirbysprite 07-03-2009 08:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jikanu (Post 358422)
Ralath, i said starting next round. im not talking about myself, as im not likely to be a legel 2 times in a row, but instead im just saying that it would 1. make it more realistic and 2. possibly add a bit of strategy in the game. The legels know for sure who the other legels are, so you have to decide if they're tricking you or using reverse psych.

Jik, I don't think it's a good idea either. I don't know how it makes it more realistic. And also, it doesn't really add more strategy to the game, as why would they help the humans, and humans can just ignore dead legals.

Manzcar 07-03-2009 08:29 PM

yes now lets see who the st votes to kill

kirbysprite 07-03-2009 08:34 PM

What happens at Night Time Day 4? No one's got anything there...ST doesn't kill that day. So, you just skip it?

Destrus 07-03-2009 09:24 PM

i have been slain:cries:

Ivramire 07-03-2009 10:04 PM

I don't think that allowing dead Legals to talk would be a good idea. Since people know that anything they say would be deliberately misleading it'd end up useless anyway. And the other reasons .__.


Humans just need to hedge who they think is ST...

Hessah 07-03-2009 10:31 PM

Sorry I didnt vote...

And Goodbye everyone! I think I'm gonna die now http://www.laymark.com/i/m/m118.gif


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